In my area there are lots of Chimneys like this one – contemporary home – wood siding.
Whats the professional way to flash the upslope side of this chimney.
It has not leaked but I wonder if its done right.
In my area there are lots of Chimneys like this one – contemporary home – wood siding.
Whats the professional way to flash the upslope side of this chimney.
It has not leaked but I wonder if its done right.
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wain-
kinda early to be hitting the flask already, ain't it?
Can't open your file pic of the flashing there.
Any chance you can repost it it a different format?
be formatting
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Try thisI do not know how to set my scanner
Edited 2/25/2005 9:01 am ET by wain
Are you saving the pic from your scanner into 'my documents' or somewhere and then loading it here to breaktime?
SanchoRon the caballero bowed low as he waved his sombrero and said goodbye.
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Please repost as a jpg file.
In the event we can't get the photo, if you scroll down in the lower left corner of your screen there is a search function that will take you to previous threads dealing with whatever you type in the search bar.
If you type in 'chimney flashing' or other keywords of the subject matter you'll get a supply of data and probably photos from those old threads that may help you.
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Thanks - never can find wood chimneys that look like mine
last try
Ok, we got it.
If it hasn't leaked you may have ok flashing installed under that vinyl siding as it probably was placed after the roofing was done.
If you're careful it looks like you should be able to lightly pry up a piece of that siding a tad withot removing it to get a look at the old siding and flashing underneath.
Others to follow shortly. Cheers
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Edited 2/25/2005 9:23 am ET by razzman
Wain, that siding is much too close to the shingles. I'd only accept 1/2" minimum, but would prefer 3/4".
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It has not leaked but I wonder if its done right.
That has very little appearance of "done right" as I see it. The way the siding and the corner boards were put on after the roofing does not suggest the highest of quality installs.
In all fairness, though, since the shingle plane appears to run neatly under the "chimney" siding, any leaks that occur will be neatly contained inside the "chase" of the chimney. That is, until the water finds another way out.
Just to my eye, there should have been a peice of flashing from the roof deck to the chimney box sheathing on the low end, another the whole length of the side, and a last peice on the high side. Then, the siding should have been step flashed to the shingles as well. In snow country, a generous helping of self-adhesive ice & water sheild would have gone in, too (and probably both under and over--but I'm a flashing pessimist).
thanks capnmac
any pix on the web of the "right way"??????
no snow here but lots of hurricane rain (coastal south carolina).I have 5 layers of removable siding (screwed on0 (with a plug behind it) and I have climbed into the chase to check for termites and water leaks -none of either.
sems someone would make access doors for chases
Edited 2/25/2005 9:38 am ET by wain
wain... that's a gable end chimney.. so it's not quite as critical
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it needs some kind of kick-out flashing to dump the water onto the roof and get it past the siding..
also.. as already pointed out.. we hold our siding 3/4 off the roof.. other wise it will wick moisture and rot the bottoms Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
thats what I felt too
all of them here look like this. lots of them around
downslope area is too narrow for a "cricket".must be a standard way
any pix on the web of the "right way"??????
Try the Building Science website (I think that's buildingscience.com, but don't quote me, googling is much easier <g>).
It may sound slightly dumb, but it seems like there's a "how to" article, which should be searchable, in the Taunton universe, someplace.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I was thinking someone just put that vinyl siding on over the old wood clapboards for decoration which hides the flashing steps.
Bet the flashing is old galvanized, at best, browned with a surface of rust with a couple different colored paint splatter drops thrown in on top.
Maybe some deterioration where it just weathered away.
Wain, what do you mean by 5 layers of removeable siding?
SanchoRon the caballero bowed low as he waved his sombrero and said goodbye.
FREE SANCHO!!!
Edited 2/25/2005 9:45 am ET by razzman
CapnMac,"The way the siding and the corner boards were put on after the roofing does not suggest the highest of quality installs."I don't understand this at all. I would prefer to put the siding on after the roofing as that simplifies getting the step flashing up behind the drainage plane. I have frequently removed (and then reinstalled) the siding while roofing for that very reason....Rich BeckmanAnother day, another tool.
yeah was thinking the same thing myself
that simplifies getting the step flashing up behind the drainage plane. I have frequently removed (and then reinstalled) the siding while roofing for that very reason
Oops, typing before coffee . . .
I meant, installing it flush down to the shingles, after the shingles were up was what was unsuggestive of quality work, that and the complete lack of any evidence of flashing.
So, I'm thinking the roofers just roofed, so the shingles are butted right up to the chimney chase. Then the siders came in and just "sided," and tight right down to those in-place shingles.
The poor flashers, when they showed up, were hauled off by the PD . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
wain,
From that photo there are only two problems that exist. The siding is too close to the roofing and there is no cricket.
Around here (Indiana) very few chimneys have crickets and most of them don't leak, and the ones that do leak usually don't for a long time.
Outside the absence of the cricket, there is no way to determine from the photo if the flashing is done correctly or not.
There should be step flashing interwoven with the shingles. Ideally, the step flashing runs up behind whatever the drainage plane is behind the siding (though this is often just the siding itself).
Since it is not leaking, the one concern here is the siding rotting because it is wicking moisture.
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
No need for a cricket on a side wall chimney
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How wide is the chimney on the upslope side? It looks like it's less than 16 inches.
Crickets should be installed on the ridge side of chimney that is greater than 30 inches wide. Siding should be installed over the flashing and a minimum of 3/4 inch above the surface of the shingles.
Probably 12- 13 inches wide
I'd be suprised if it was more than 11"
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12- 13 was a guess, unless I climb up there.seems it needs something upslope
Just exacly what Mike said, no need for cricket, and the ideal situ is a Pan that extends up the chiney, BEHIND the siding. Steps are agiven for the side of the chimney, and no need for counter flashing that is behind siding.What ya want the back pan to dump is up to you, I'd slope it to drain down the plane of the roof, I have seen an application where it dumped over the edge, but don't know why it was done that way.But , the uphill side really, needs a pan. If yoy add it now, counter flash the top.
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Restoring, Remodeling, Reclaiming The Quality..
flask, pan, what's the difference ?
if it dumps over the edge, it'll probably dribble down the chimney and the siding..
which is why i was thinking kicker flash to the roof sideMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Right on..I just have not heard the term flask, I assumed a typo.Hey, who gets the Fish book next?(check in the maill too, next week).
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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ya gotta SELL the fish book..
ron budgell SOLD it to me... i couldn't wait to read it..
i SOLD it to you
now you gotta SELL it.. look for a fish who thinks they'd like to read it..
me.. i'd look for a weird guy like Budgell.. or Smith.. .. or Engle.. or Sphere.. you know... someone like Blodgett or Beckman... or Jaybird..man..he takes everything i send to him
hey, you can always tell 'em ... "Mikey likes it "
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Waiiiit...you SOLD it to me?Hmmm..did I actually PAY for it?And dem boys read it already...think Blodgett will buy it again?shoot, I'll sell it Clifford, he'll have enough wrappers for his herbage for a few weeks..
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Restoring, Remodeling, Reclaiming The Quality..
no.. cliffy might leave it out in the rain.. try pushin it on Shaggy..
or Jaybird..
part of the problem, YOU KNOW, is that no one knows what the hell you're talking about ..
it's like you have this REALLY great commercial, but at the end of it.. no one has any idea what you were selling Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Yup..Man, for awile there in that beginning, I remembered home. The Delaware was/is a fantastic site..when the shad are runnin..I still can't eat it, but what fun haulin em in..I got a box of darts I can't use..ya want some?
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i eats 'em..i don't catch 'em
in P'town.. the herring boats would come in from the fish traps...
the harbor master would make 'skully joe".. herring fillets in salt brine.. hng on a clothesline to dry..
when you're sitting around the cracker barrel telling lies, you grab holt a one, pull out your knife (pocket knife would do, a sheath knife for filleting would be more manly )..
then you carve off a bite, and chomp away... oh , yeah.. continue embellishing the lie on the wind
finestkindMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Ya lost me. We used ta get Halibut and salmon from Alaska , when Renee I were a team...ummmm..good stuff.I grew up on the Delaware, and it's tributaries, just never aquired a taste for Shad. Or, the Roe. I had an Aunt that would treat it like Gods flesh..with eggs in the mornin or fillets for lunch, or some cockamamie Pa. dutch stew for dinner.I can't fathom her desire for the stuff..to me, it was guts.Welcome to our hijack..LOL.Got snow?, We have had no measureable all yr...go figgure.
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skully joe ?
herring fillets in salt brine ?
selling fish books ?
what the heck are you guys talking about ?
I thought this thread was about a safe place on the roof for my Bushmill's.
carpenter in transition
look tim, ya gotta keep up....
now lissen, i'm only gonna say this once
if you want to read a great book about Shad ( big herring ).. just tell Sphere you want the book next..
it does have a certain responsibility that goes with it.... you have to see that it gets passed on when you finish
Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
nowlookee here,
I don't need you to tell me what a shad is.
Here in Easton, we have our own Shad Hotline:
http://www.geocities.com/shadhotline/
Sphere knows that, he's from my parts of Pennsyltucky.
Now, how much is this book gonna cost me ?
carpenter in transition
nadda.. you just gotta tell duane what your mailing addy isMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore