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Hello. Contractors have lost some of the small round 7/16 inch (length) ‘washers/spacers’ (for lack of better words) that are interspersed on the hinge pin when it slides in to the hinge. Usually two or three per pin/hinge. Anyone know what they’re called or where to get them? I need 8 or 10. No one around these parts has a clue. Thanks, GUP
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Are you talking about bearings?
Junk, I don't know WHAT they're called. New construction, and contractors lost some of them. Couldn't find anyone at Home Depot (small town) who had a clue what I was talking about, even when I showed them one of them.
Are they called washers? Spacers? They're round, 7/16 in lengh, two parts (at least) as I can spin one part while holding other part stationary ... like a roller bearing type thing.
Thanks.
Sure sounds like bearings, though sometimes they are just bronze bushings (but those wouldn't be 2-part). These are used on hinges for heavy doors -- not normal residential doors.If they're lost I would imagine you have to buy new hinges, though if you can find the brand you might try calling the manufacturer.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
Even better, if it was new construction, have the contractor replace them."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
sometimes bearings, and sometimes bushings.Might be easier to buy new hinges than to find these, unless you know the brand.Normally found on heavier doors.Since the 'contractors' lost them, it should be their headache and their cost to replace them
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Yup Gup, I think you are dealing with the bearings of hinges with bearings
http://www.grainger.com/1/1/16732-stanley-fbb179-us4-hinge-ball-bearing-satin-brass-0-134-fbb179.html
Here is a view of one type. Many types are made. They're not cheap, as you'll soon find out, cause you're going to have to buy the entire hinge. Ha ha ha.
McMark... I see that they ARE expensive! I'm hoping to find them packaged as a separate 'part' for hinges.
Think that possible?
Thanks.
I don't understand -- The contractor lost them.Well? I'm a contractor, and I take care of my screw-ups.That's the definition of being a contractor: fix all screw-ups, reap all profits/suck up all losses.What does your contractor say, and why on Earth did you pay him already (if, as it sounds like, you did)?AitchKay
"That's the definition of being a contractor: fix all screw-ups, reap all profits/suck up all losses."
Unless of course it is my highly recommended contractor, who worked on T&M to remodel our bathroom. When he cut the door too short, I got to pay for the new door (plus his markup) and his time to rehang it. When they set the mixing valve to the wrong depth and I refused to allow them to stack one tile on top of another as "the fix", I got to pay for the time of both the tile guy and the plumber to do it properly, plus the markup. When he cut off and left the old gigantic iron vent pipe with no support (and no cap!) and it crashed through the ceiling, you guessed - I got to pay for the drywall guy to come fix it, plus markup.
So I fixed the hole in the roof from the vent pipe myself.
My guess is that this contractor is like mine (who "lost" the key to my front door) and will charge for the new hinges, plus markup.
IIRC it takes a specific effort and a vise and punch to get the bearings off the hinge plates.
Memory aint what it used to be,
So, went down the basement and grabbed a 2 bearing Hager, a 2 bearing Stanley, a 4 bearing 5" stanley, and a LOB 2 bearing hinge.
With just hand effort and pair of pliers, could NOT remove the pressed in bearings on any of the hinges.
Methinks somebody wanted a couple of these bearings for something else and saw a 'free' source.
BTW, OP, you just need 8 or ten?? I can beat the Grainger price by 10% <G>
Yeah, I had always assumed that the bearings were fixed to one side of the hinge, but I've only had such hinges apart once or twice.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
Junk... yethinks wrong.
All our many interior doors have these washers, guessing about nine per door. That's a LOT of washers.
I need TWO of them that I know of.
I will buy more than TWO (should I find more doors with missing washers).
Called probability estimating.
However, I appreciate your input.
Notafreeloadergup
What sort of interior doors do you have that require ball bearing hinges? Just curious.John
That's what I was going to ask.
Only seen them used on doors leading to garages.
But it's gug.
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Just re-read the title, dont know how we all missed the obvious answer.
Anyway, the round things in door hinges are the holes where the screws go thru to hold it onto the door and the jamb.
I have lots of those, can send anyone who wants any number of them as many as you want.
Biggest problem is when they are separated from the hinges, it is VERY hard to find them, pretty invisible even, and they weigh next to nothing!
<G>
Good thing you don't have a supply of black holes... or even red matter.
Yikes.
John, the doors came from a distributor in Houston and they all had these 'washers' that, like SNORT said...
"The ones that I see lately fall off when the painters pull the doors,
and I'm pretty sure it takes a trip to China to replace them<g>"
Every time we removed a door to paint it, we had to be careful of the washers falling off and rolling away. The 'lost' ones happened when the tile people removed the doors.
Now, PROBLEM HAS BEEN SOLVED I think... bright idea to call the door distributor and was able to order several hinges from them, just to get the washers. I'll know when hinges arrive.
THANKS EVERYONE for your expert input!
Gup
One of my door suppliers puts them on all solid core interiors. They keep the hinge rubbing dust down, but they are pretty cheap hinges, and the bearing races sometimes fall out... and get lost.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
That's not right. You should be paying t&m to do it right, plus any changes you request. Mistakes should be at his expense."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
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That's not right. You should be paying t&m to do it right, plus any changes you request. Mistakes should be at his expense.
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Concur. The guy should eat his errors; if he refused, you should have threatened to beat him over the head with a blunt lawyer....
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
"That's not right. You should be paying t&m to do it right, plus any changes you request. Mistakes should be at his expense."
I agree, but when you have been taking sponge baths in the kitchen for two months and you had to wait 6 months for the contractor that screwed things up to start the job and you assume that other contractors probably don't want to take over midjob then you pay the t&m to get it fixed.
Edited because I couldn't see my own reply.
Edited 10/8/2009 12:10 pm by aimless
Edited 10/8/2009 12:11 pm by aimless
I understand your frustration, but what you do in a case like that is send the a-hole a registered letter demanding he fix your punch list by a specified date (usually 10 days from date of receipt), at his expense because (state reasons for each item on list). If/when he doesn't show, you call in whoever you gotta, pay them, and then backcharge/sue the original a-hole for that amount, plus costs.
If you don't do that, said a-hole continues to do the same thing to others.
Think of it as cleaning the contractor gene-pool....
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
You manage to get stung by all sorts of vermin, not just bees
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Those are bearings and the contractor should replace them, or replace the hinges. Contractor should be the one here asking about it, or better yet already know this stuff.
The bearings are different from manufacturer to manufacturer, and ever between different styles of hinges, so finding replacements may prove impossible. I'd suggest you tell that contractor to get off their duff and fix their mistakes. They shouldn't be laying that burden on you.
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if these are commercial hinges, the local HD or Lowes won't have them... and getting the bearings is probably a waste of time. new hinges of this type are $12-15 per hinge. I hope that is not what you thought was really expensive.
I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish. Pete Draganic
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do the hinges look like the ones on this page?
http://www.thehardwarehut.com/door_comm_hinges.php
I have a bunch of these in used condition if that is all you need, but with shipping and all, I don't know if you aren't better off just buying them locally. You have to find a commercial hardware supplier... and you might have to have an account to buy from them.
Hmmm, now that I think it over, what color do you need? I assume 3 hinges on one door, I could send out a set of used but good for $35 with shipping via the USPS.
I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish. Pete Draganic
You can lead a moderator to a computer, but you can't make him think. cussin2
Edited 10/8/2009 8:14 am ET by PeteDraganic
I could send out a set of used but good for $35 with shipping via the USPS.
Tongue in cheek-
Can beat that price - <G>
OH.... forgot to add, my overhead rate for handling is in the 3 figure range <:(
Edited 10/8/2009 8:27 am ET by junkhound
Shoot, I oughta sell you all my hinges... think of the profit you'll make on handling!
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I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish. Pete Draganic
You can lead a moderator to a computer, but you can't make him think. cussin2
If you guys sell your hinges wonlt that leave you unhinged?"this dog may be old but he ain't cold. And he still knows how to bury a bone."
Lattimore
http://www.rehmodeling.com
Too late.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
LOL.
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I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish. Pete Draganic
You can lead a moderator to a computer, but you can't make him think. cussin2
The ones that I see lately fall off when the painters pull the doors, and I'm pretty sure it takes a trip to China to replace them<g>http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Yeah, but they're only 3 cents apiece when you get there.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
It's the danged walk back that queers the deal.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Mod alert! Snort said a bad word!"Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Fink.http://www.tvwsolar.com
We'll have a kid
Or maybe we'll rent one
He's got to be straight
We don't want a bent one
He'll drink his baby brew
From a big brass cup
Someday he may be president
If things loosen up
Try an Ace Hardware store; small parts bins by the nuts and bolts.
Try a Napa auto parts store. And an independent, if your town has one.
Last, a small machine shop. Not one specializing in automotive work. Maybe a good gunsmith.
Take a sample with you to all three.
SamT
A Pragmatic Classical Liberal, aka Libertarian.
I'm always right!
Except when I'm not.
Yeah, I wouldn't discount the possibility that the oldest, dingiest HW store in the area has some in a dusty bin somewhere.
As I stood before the gates I realized that I never want to be as certain about anything as were the people who built this place. --Rabbi Sheila Peltz, on her visit to Auschwitz
If the doors do NOT have closers on them, then why do you need ball-bearing hinges?
I can't speak for residential door installers, but in the commercial world, those pins are never removed. The reason being--damage to the bearings is more likely.
Hung 42 doors in this house I'm working in. All 1 3/4 thick Poplar with a single MDF panel. All have ball bearing hinges. Took 2 men and a boy to set one.:)
Wayne
They are bearings. You will need new hinges I believe. I doubt that you can buy them separately. Hinges with bearings are installed on heavy doors, and doors that get a lot of daily use. I never separate the leaves of bearing hinges. To remove the door you only back out the hinge screws.
Reminds me of a time I was fired for telling my boss not to remove the hinge pins. We had an entire floor of doors that had to be cut down for height after a new floor was installed. He was removing the pins, bearings all over the place, he got mad when I told him to leave the pin in. I was paid and went home to get my fishing rod at 8:00 am."A bad of fishing is better than a good day of work", Confucious, Mark Twain, ?
mike
Edited 10/9/2009 7:35 pm ET by mike4244