Just found a bucket of tools that must have been left in the rain and then put in the shop wet last fall. The @#%$#@$# @#$@@# @#$#@# of #%$%% is no longer with me but the rust lingers, light to heavy any ideas beside oil and a wire brush?
Thanks in advance
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5 gallon bucket of kerosene and wire wheels,brushes. Get most off, then PB Blaster for the stuck operating parts.
Not much else works any better.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
pb blaster?
Liquid wrench type penetrating oil in a spray can, auto parts stores and Lowes carries it. REALLY good stuff, I just freed up some hyd. jacks that were frozen up real bad.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
I have had success with Evapo-Rust. It is sewerable, and takes light rust off fast, and deep rust within 24 hrs. I think a gallon is about $20. Google it. In my last project, I built a box with some scrap lumber that fit the items I wanted to de-rust. I lined it with some 6 mil PE, added the parts, and covered them with the product. Next day, I took them out to the driveway and sprayed them off. They were clean.
I let them dry in the sun. Then, to curb further rusting, I brushed on some clean product.
I've seen (on the web) examples of a product called Ultra one. If it works as good as they say it is it would be great.
Mike
Does Naval Jelly still exist? That used to be the standard treatment.
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
foolish men call Justice....
get some oxy clean, pour couple table spoon in the bucket, fill with water. hook all the metal tools together with jumpers. hook to battery charger. hook the other contact to a piece of scrap steel, make sure it not touching the other metal. come back in couple days, they be spotless and the paint still be good.
use lye instead...
faster...
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OK , I'll bite .if a battery charger works, would a welding machine get it one faster, dial the volts waaay down and crank the amps way up.. or would it just eject the caustic all over the placejust don't know if the welder would blow a fuse.
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you want a reverse electrolisis type effect.....
never tried a welder....
can we have the film by eleven???
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WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I think you should try it first..... !and what's with the lye ? seems kinda nasty to play with.
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tell me again where yur shop/garage is....
a weak solution of lye works pretty fast...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
well I'm gonna give it a try with the batt charger first.... I'm taking the yellow road first time out..... this weekend if I have the time.
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I use a 2 amp trickle charger...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
I can do that ? Thanks M.
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Electroplating uses around 20VDC and little or no amps....
so...................................
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
hmmm,I remember running busbar for very high currents like around 2K and very low single digit voltages.
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Depends on a variety of factors and what one is trying to accomplish with the plating. Both are used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroplating I remember that too high a amperage would cause "burn" and over deposit on the highlights of a piece being plated and sometimes they would have to be stripped and re-plated at lesser amperage.
Sometimes the "burn" could be polished off with satisfactory results.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
You are going to need a large tank for the table saw.
HAHAHahahahAhh, what is this ..... "clown week".
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Just remember to take the motor off first.
if this works I'm coming over and we'll do your saw !!LMAO.
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HEY!!!!
what happened to using yur welder in yur gitradge????
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
ypo could use distilled vinegar...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
and what's with the lye ? seems kinda nasty to play with
How do you clean your saw blades? Mine go into the lye bucket, get their teeth brushed, rinse, and dry. Quick and easy.PAHS works. Bury it.
you have to clean saw blades ??? :)I thought they were just dull,since I don't use mine all the time I use that Boeshield stuff.
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Yup, leave 'em covered with pitch and they'll get dull.
that reminds me of an episode of Mythbusters.
One of the guys tried using electrolosis to corode some metal bars but was using AC.... so in efect he would dissolve some metal and then attach some metal as the curret alternated.
Had to use DC to get the desired effect.
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so what happened???
or are you gonna start a new thread on "new" replacement garage????
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
well one of the string trimmers, the newest one of course, was giving me fits and so was my hip so I didn't get a roundtuit this weekend. walked past the charger about twenty times thoughbut now I think you're settin me up...... :).
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I was just trying to get eve.... er... ummmmmmmmm....
hey!!! I was trying to set up anybody...
I wasn't even there...
ask anyone of the dogs....
they'll tell ya.....
sorry about the hip.. just wundering how successful you were....
besides....
have a special on me....
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
ahaaa , thanks a lot .. pal .. I'll keep it nearby and hopefully will have a go at it this week .
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"hook to battery charger."Which end is pos, which neg?
BruceT
Posted earlier, has instructions. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm#intro
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
the scrap metal is postive
Citric acid works pretty well. As in a bottle of lemon juice and a bucket of water.
Just restored an old plane and some ship auger bits that way and was pretty surprised. You'll probably want to hit it with a green scouring pad just to make sure, but honestly 98% of the oxidation disappears thanks to the reaction.
One word of caution, when you take the tools out of the mix, don't let them sit around before you wipe them down and dry them off. They'll flash rust. A hair dryer works well to prevent that.
What Brownbagg said...
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm#intro
Muriatic acid was the key to naval jelly. It's used to do something to hot tubs, so it's commercially available. Make sure you oil the daylights out of anything you use it on.
I'm pretty certain that the active ingredient in naval jelly is phosphoric acid, not muriatic (hydrochloric) acid. Dilute phosphoric is the expedient way to cut iron oxide.
You are correct, sir! Also the active ingredient in Lime Away and Coca Cola. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acidNothing would be done at all if a man waited till he could do it so well
that no one could find fault with it.—John Cardinal Newman
Disputantum Semirotten Woodworking
From the MSDS on Permatex Corp's brand of Naval Jelly:
Dinosaur
How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....
Not muriatic acid, but phosphoric acid, IIRC
Naval Jelly, tomato sauce, or Kool-Aid.