I’ve found some anecdotal evidence on the web (none from their site) that I can use a 1″ Sharkbite fitting to repair my water service entry on my house; done 17 years ago with the 1″ blue “exterior” PB.
I’ve put a vernier on the IDs/ODs; they seem to match exactly.
The fitting cracked at my meter; and it’s evidently been leaking for 4-5 months – about a hundred thousand gallons of water into the dry Georgia dirt, by the city records.
The city had put in new electronic meters 8-10 years ago, so it’s THEIR fitting on MY pipe on MY side of the meter – I may have a case, especially if I fix it, with photo documentation.
Can quickly do it with stuff here, IFF the Sharkbite is indicated here.
Forrest
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Go buythe real crimp rings and tool at Lowes or HD and fix it then return the tool, why chance it?
If I'm reading you right.
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Thanks for the quick. I can't get the tool to it without a lot of digging in my neighbore's yard (i'm working in the meter box). I did use the SharkBite I had; it seems to be holding fine, and the small leak at the meter iis gone.
Sad part is, I still have a leak somewhere. The litle tell-tale black triangle at the meter still goes about a revolution every second or two.
I've valved-off my main under the house, and determined the leak's not in my buried "blue" incoming pipe (it stops the tell-tale rotating), but I've got to go start digging in the crawl space.
Hard to imagine where a hundred thousand gallons of water went; no condensation under my VB on the ground between my buried main valve and the 30' away where the supply pipe comes up out of the ground to my regulator in the equipment closet.
Forest - fortifying myself with bacon
A leaky flapper will dump LOTS and LOTS of water one drop at a time.And unless you have Fluidmaster (some of the other replacement might be the same) the fill valve will crack open just enough to keep it filled without knowing anything.The Fluid master lets the water drop 1" or 2 and does a refill cycle and you will hear a phantom flush from time to time.Start with checking the water level in the tanks and turning off the shut off valve.And check again in an hour.Or you can put food dye in the tank..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Okay - I'm in from the outside, FINISHED!
Dug holes in the yard, tracking from my under-the-house shutoff (1" PVC) to where the transition was to the other end of the 1" blue PB.
After (6) holes in GA clay, I found it - yep, leaking at the compression joint. Cut it out; replaced in with another SharkBite and a 1" slip/compression PVC coupling.
Now, not a hair of movement on the meter tell-tale.
In retrospect, as we look around, that is a REALLY green part of the yard; the little fruit trees and male and female Kiwis are really happy.
No freakin' wonder!
Forrest - I did turn all the toilets off first to check for that kind of leak. Seven toilets, you know - some go a while without being used
Seven toilets, you know - some go a while without being used
Wow, one for eveybody and a coupla spares, huh? Do you name 'em?
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
Yep - there's the basement, the powder room, the maid's, ours, the tiny bath, master two, and the playroom.
Forrest
Atsa lotta crappers!
IMO, buying a tool, then returning it after the job is dishonest. Buy it. Rent it. Borrow it. Hire a real contractor. But don't purchase under false pretenses.
Thats what the Lowes here told me to do, they do it with anyone who only needs it for a short while, they don't rent like HD.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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If that's their policy, I stand corrected. Sure makes me feel good about buying used tools.
I've had the Lowes employees and HD employees tell me to do it also.
Well I probably saw the samethign that you did.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071231070634AAKDRer
How here is a replacement couple that is compression. Notice that they say that the same fitting will fit copper, pex, cpvc, and pb. As they all have the same OD.
http://www.plumbingsupply.com/polyb.html
And this place;
http://www.mobilehomedoctor.com/poly.htm
"A good repair system I know of is the Genova union that will let you transition from poly to CPVC (or PEX or copper). They are hand tightened so you don't have to try and get tools into tiny spaces and I have never had one leak. There are now also push-fit fittings that are better than the Genovas. See the Genova page for more information."
Sharkbytes are a push in connector. And Lowes has a plastic push in connector. Don't know the brand or what it is spected for.
Now this place say to only uses special PB connector as PB is a different diameter. But it is a intert fitting with a crimp.
So I am guess that the ID is slightly different.
All of the other are based on OD so it seem that the sharkbites are similar should work.
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Here was the leaking fitting at the meter. Notice how I got the ripple in there before I took anything apart? That's the photographer's art - my pic to go to the city, to negotiate the shared responsibility.
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Having taken it apart and looked at it with a loupe; I can't see any egregious failures. Other end of the blue pipe was the same way.
If I get another 17 years from the new SharkBites I put on, I'll be OK.
Forrest
Edited 9/8/2008 8:31 pm ET by McDesign
Notice how I got the ripple in there
Whazzat? You had some of this before you went into the pit to fix the leak?
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I'm sure when Redd Foxx referred to it as "The national wine of Watts", he meant Watts plumbing products.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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I prefer the early '08 Ripple Blanc
Forrest
That quest fitting is a poor choice for that app. Wouldn't suprise me if they cracked it when it was installed and it didn't leak till later.
Seems you were right. DW took my pic to the city, and they admitted they had had three others leaking recently. They think they may have had a bad batch or a bad technique when they put in the new meters.
Looks like they'll credit me for everything I've paid the last few months over 12,000 gallons.
Forrest