Would putting the base of a shower surround on a purgo floor be allright. And could I just glue the sides to the wall leaving the wall paper up.
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Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
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I am not sure of the best reasons why, but pergo under a shower does not sound like a good idea at all. The surround being held up by wallpaper sounds even worse. Try to think long term, sooner or later water gets everywhere, and definetly where you do not want it! Neither of your products are known for holding up well to humidity problems, let alone shower leaks. Pull it out, do it properly, and enjoy much better results. Or maybe just hire it done, watch carefully, and learn for next time.
Dan
One thing that hits me right off is that most of those laminate floors are floating floors, so if you put the shower on it, you have a floating shower.
I realize these guys sound merciless, but I can't blame them. Any kind of laminate next to a shower door is a really bad idea. But, I can tell you a story about Pergo:
Our neighbors at the cabin have a Pergo floor throughout their main level, and it's held up pretty well. (Of course, this isn't surprising, because they are the most anal retentive family I've ever known. They don't allow any shoes inside their cabin, kill the ants around their cabin, mow the lawn twice a weekend,
AND they sweep and clean constantly. They even sweep their dock off every morning if that gives you the picture....) But, they can only wash their Pergo floor once a month, and, when they do, it literally forms "waves" throughout the rooms it's in until it dries. I know that the new Pergos are more durable, but still, would you want that near your shower?
actually, before I redid the 5th wheel in pergo (actually just call it that, I used one of the others, Armstrong I thinks), I did some torture testing on it...wet/dry/submersed, etc. Was really amazed at how it stood up -- well within reasonable abuse limits.
I can appreciate that Armstrong is an excellent laminate, and can stand up to a lot of abuse, but I still think it's a bad idea near a shower. Showers are soooooo, well,,,,,,,,wet. And the people that get out of them are wet. The rugs on the floors near them are wet. Not to mention the towels, wash rags, soaps, etc. These things are all wet. Plus, people that use showers dont tend to use them once a week. They use them every day.
I'm just willing to bet there is another floor covering that would make for a happier picture long term.
lots of negative replies, but you asked for some advice so....
remove the flooring under the shower for sure, that flooring gives with weight on it, shower drains can not
besides if the floor gets ruined by moisture which it probably will, at least you will be able to replace it
the surround should at least go on drywall(moiture res) and much better cement board, but definitly NOT over wall paper on anything
personally i dont like shower/bath surrounds except for the one piece fibreglass units,there is a thousand places for leaks
use the shower parts like the base and glass front but use ceramic tile on the walls and chuck that plastic wall stuff as far as you can throw it
caulking is not a piece of trim
I'm going to be the nay-sayer in this instance and disagree with a couple of points (at my peril, I'm sure).
I have seen a hundred shower bases placed directly upon OSB and plywood subfloors. I'm not knocking OSB, but it ain't water proof y'know. So, what's the difference between delaminating the pergo, or delaminating the plywood?
However... the point about the "floating" shower is not only funny, it's also true :)
What everybody has been responding to is the idea of proximity to water. But there is another problem here.
No engineered floating floor should be installed under ANYTHING. They are intended to float and move. They will grow and shrink and require about 5/16" between edges and walls or hard ends for movment. The shower could bind things up tight in that corner and force the movement in other directions or cause it to buckle..
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That's what my NO was addressing ...
I could care less if anyone wants pergo in their bathroom ... stepping from the shower onto it shouldn't hurt much ... as long as what ever trim was put over the expansion gap was sealed tight to the shower base ...
But like Piff already said .. a floating floor sinks with weight set permanent on it.
Especially in a corner or edge of a room ... like where a shower would go ...
Now setting a pool table in the middle ... that's fine by me ... as it'll expand out from the center to the expansion gaps everyone remembered to leave at the walls...
"Everyone" he says ... huh!
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
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Feeling rowdy tonight, eh?
Cold shower for you old goat.
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Rich2 -
So far everyone has ushered you into a corner - don't see any acknowledgment of any replies so hope they haven't caused you to shy away from the forum. This *is*, after all, a place for getting educated, even though it may come at a price.
That said, I'll try to be somewhat gentle and suggest -
NO, PLEASE DON'T DO THAT
(grin)
Why -
I think it's folly to put any finished flooring material *under* something as permanent as a shower surround. I'm assuming you mean one of the one-piece cast fiberglas type units. If you, or the next home owner *ever* decides to put in a new type of floor, you've got to contend with digging the old one out from under the shower base.
However -
Running the finished flooring material up to the shower base results in the joint between the two being open at the top. A perfect conduit for water into the substrate/subfloor. Not a good situation either. Even if the finish floor is mud set ceramic tile, that's a poor joint design but - can be fairly easily maintained and we're not talking about a large head of water pressure.
I would suggest you re-think the wisdom of using a product such as a laminate floor in such a wet condition as a shower.
Dennis in Bellevue WA
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