We need to go into a home and paint a bunch of trim , in place, as well as walls and doors. It was probabally spray painted to begin with. spray is out of the question now. They want as slick as sprayed and yet thick enough to cover various colrs with white. Mostly light colors one room though is purple. The doors are no problem, we will pull them off and spray. the walls, roller and brush, but the trim…………
I have thought of using an HVLP gun, but they dont want us to do any spray since the wife has latex alergies and they fear that spraying will put too much in the air. after it is dry she has no problem.
Another point to consider is realistic affordable bidding, cant afford us in there to paint, sand ,paint, sand, paint
If you saw my friday fun picture, then you know that we are not usually the guys in there detail painting trim. BTW , its for the same house
Ideas ???
Thank you
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send the wife on a three day vacation while you spray. Most likely she will still have an allergic reaction when the paint is drying. Pronglong your time with a brush and some floetrol or shorten it with a spray setup.
Sorry read the thread too fast. I didnt realize you said the doors are no problem....
" Looks good from my house!!"
will the floetrol lay it down flatter, never used it. the guy at Sherwin Willian said to thin it with water to get it to lay flatter and hide brush marks, tired that on a piece at the shop, didnt seem to amke that much difference, even used the brush they recomended, sold me.
Try a sponge brush. Works better'n a regular one for smoothness, but doesn't lay on much paint.
Yes Floetrol will help it lay down, great stuff, I swear by it. Water...you got to be kidding me...I can't believe he suggested that.
i wont use paint without floetrol or penetrol.
First point, the woman used to be a vet. assistant wearing latex gloves all the time, her body cant handle latex anymore, I herad this is becoming a problem in the medical field, for vets, too.
I am going to pick up some fletrol tosay and try it on some scrap , Ill let you know
I also work hard to do what the owner wants, and ifg they say or ask no spray in the house, then I do my darndest not to spray
and yes sherwin willimas really did suggest thining the latex with water to lay flatter , he says it breaks the bond in the latex so that it will lay flatter ad hide brush marks
it dint weem to work, maybe he used to work at Home depot !!
If I read your post correctly, the main concern is how to make the trim look as smooth as a spray job w/o spraying.
Take a look at Schreuder paint. Expensive, but it self levels even when brushed on vertical surfaces.
http://merrillpaint.com/all_schreuder_house.htm
You can order it by mail, if you can't get it nearby.
If only it was only that simple to send the woman out when it's her house being worked on....lol
However is it possible to take the doors to your shop or anything? You said they were coming off anyway right? Move them to a neutral spot. If they really want that sprayed type finish then they have to sacrifice right? It's not your allergy.
I,on the other hand, am allergic to working for people like that........just kidding
How about spraying 100% acrylic paint? I believe acrylic is a different polymer than latex, and she might not be alergic to that. I'm not sure who you'd ask (a chemist, allergist, ?) to confirm they are different substances.
Or, how about one of those shellac based white primer sealer paints? They have a nice gloss, and dry very quickly.
Hi,
Ask her about using a venetian plaster (Behr makes one that's like thick paint, you tint it and trowel it on) or a "green paint" alternative. There are a couple of different kinds. I wonder if she's truly allergic to the latex in the paint or if she's sensitive to the chemicals and gets--I forget what it's called--chemical rhinitis? If it's the paint, wouldn't the paint on the windows send up a fine dust when she opens and closes them--sort of like lead paint does? My point is, if she's allergic to the paint, why does she want it on her walls?
Here's some green alternatives--too bad she doesn't live in the UK--there's lots!
http://www.afmsafecoat.com/
http://www.novocoat.com/ourhistory.html
http://www.aurousa.com/
could you spray an enamel on the trim? better suited for wear than a latex I think.
I've been spraying BM satin impervo out of a HVLP, cut with naptha it dries relativly quick and really doesn't smell to bad, probably send the family out of the house for the day when you do it if I were you.
In his original post he mentioned white. Just a question, Have you seen what white Sat. Imp. looks like after a couple of years?
yep, never seen any problems
I've been using Satin Impervo from Ben Moore for about 15 years now and never had a problem. Mostof it is white and mostcustomersarerepeats where I see same job year after year. Any possibility you had an adulterated can or the environmet was unclean?
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Most pros dont spray inside a customers home thats occupied. I dont unless its has a must reason such as shooting a popcorn ceiling.
Who says they cant pay the bill involved with brushing ? Seems the job requires it .
Tim Mooney