Hi All,
I’m building a kitchen pantry pullout 5′ tall, 15″ wide and I’m trying to figure out the best sliding mechanism. Should I use 2 sets of full extension slides placed at the top and bottom of the pullout? If so, I’m a little worried about mantaining tolerances…(gulp). Has anyone built one of these units.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Dave
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I'm planning on building something similar, except ~80" tall.
My research so far has found http://www.rev-a-shelf.com/ you have to look for pantry components. the page url won't copy. Think a couple of other's have pantry slide out units.
Also check out Rockler as they have a sliding mechinism with a realistic weight capacity.
Can't help you with anything else.
edit" http://www.cabinetstorage.com/cspantry.htm#pantrymate
bobl Volo Non Voleo
Edited 5/28/2003 8:00:52 PM ET by bobl
How would you be mounting the slides to the unit?
I was thinking I would mount them to the sides (3/4" plywood slats).
a couple of heavy duty bottom mount drawer slides plus one at the top for alignment will work, are the doors to be fastened to the slide out unit?
if so lining up the doors will be a real challenge and may change with the load in the slide out unit
frankly, i wouldnt recommend one full size unit, the weight can be horrendous, not to mention hard to pull out
You're right to be cautious about using drawer slides on a big pull-out pantry. In the course of remodeling kitchens, I've encountered pantries based on drawer slides, and they generally no longer slide. A whole pantry full of canned goods weighs a whole lot. I use slides from Hafele specifically designed for big pull-outs. Recently Rockler has started retailing slides that I think are the Hafele ones. They're rated for 450 pounds. At $250 per set, they ain't cheap, but that the sort of spec you need. With those slides as your basis, you build a box that goes in and out, and then you wrap a standard tall kitchen cabinet around that; tolerances aren't a problem.
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/showdetl.cfm?offerings_id=5725&objectgroup_id=518&catid=81&DID=6#moreinfobobl Volo Non Voleo
It would be more simple to incorporate wheels to handle the load and use drawer guides as a means to.....guide.
Do you have any thoughts as to how something like this would be built?
Thanks, Dave
re - Do you have any thoughts as to how something like this would be built?
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Not all the way through, to be honest, and I am not by any means a working professional.
Should have kept my mouth shut and just listened to the pros' comments, which I value very much at Breaktime.
But I have noticing these pullout closets over the years and wanted to rig one up.
Some were on rollers/casters.
Just the first thought that came when I imagined how much stuff would end up in such a contraption and I've wanted one to relieve our overflowing mess in the small pantry closet.
There may be issues with the flooring support if the pullout is expected to weigh a ton.
But suspending the beast on heavy-duty drawer glides, for me at least, would be far more complicated and expensive in contructing then a box on a set of 747 landing gears.
There would be an adjustable stop so the unit can't be pulled completely out of the pocket - don't want one of our boys tipping it over and getting crushed.
I imagine them pulling out and climbing up to get to something, like a bag on candies out of reach at the top.
have you thought about making your own drawer slides useing sliding dove tails? WOW-woodworking .con has a jig that you can make sliding dove tails slides for about 100 bucks
Darkworks: Its all 'bout da squilla
RonT
I think that you have been sniffing too many lacquer fumes lately.
Wooden drawer slides to carry several hundrend pounds of can goods?
Skateboard trucks on the bottom and drawer slides on top.
SamT
Bill Here is the original post.
Hi All,
I'm building a kitchen pantry pullout 5' tall, 15" wide and I'm trying to figure out the best sliding mechanism. Should I use 2 sets of full extension slides placed at the top and bottom of the pullout? If so, I'm a little worried about mantaining tolerances...(gulp). Has anyone built one of these units.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Dave
You said:
RonT
I think that you have been sniffing too many lacquer fumes lately.
Wooden drawer slides to carry several hundrend pounds of can goods?
Bill I have been doing that and Im gettng ready to sniff some paint/primer fumes but I didnt readn anything about weight requirements.
I just answer the Q I dont read into anything cuz I dont know exactly what they want.
Darkworks: Its all 'bout da squilla
Look at the #30818 undermount extension slide that Rockler has.
It's rated at 225lbs, two can handle 450lbs. When you build the unit, reinforce the floor area where the slides will go. Shouldn't cause any more problem than a loaded refrigerator.
Davey,
Last year I built a kitchen cabinet with 4 pull outs 12"X 30".
I used the 22" Accuride pantry slides available from Rockler, #91968.
They work well and were easy to install and resonable at $58.
The only trick is that the runners need to be installed on a separate piece of 3/4" ply, then that is installed into the cab. Then you pull it out to it's full extension, and install the box.
They consist of 2 lower runners, and a center top runner just to keep the unit laterally stable.The center runner needs a 1/2" spacer to mount it unter the top, if you're using face frame construction.
I'd suggest buying the slides before designing your interior as it requires 1/2" top and 1-9/16" bottom clearance.
I'd also suggest that the face be made separate from the box, so it can be installed and adjusted after the box is in. Get some of those adjustable drawer face doo-dads too. Use extra screws from the inside of the box into the face.
You're going to be pulling a lot of weight, so any knobs or handles should be mounted through the door face and box with extra long bolts.
I've got the bug to put something like this in our future kitchen remodel, and I have decided I'd like to try the Larder units Lee Valley offers
See:
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.asp?page=43655&category=3,43722,43723&abspage=1&ccurrency=2&SID=
If that doesn't work, look for larder under kitchen hardware.
K
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