Rant Coming because this seems to be the (wrong) way of the world:
Builder buys the windows… for $10 ea less cause he’s cheap. (STING)
Window manufacturer makes the windows wothout priming the mullions before the glazing ’cause the builder is cheap. (STING)
Painter paints the windows without primer ’cause the builder is cheap AND won’t pay him ’til the house sells. (STING)
Homeowner hires the lowest bidder to re-paint the windows without cleaning and puts latex over oil WITHOUT primer, ’cause he’s cheap. (STING)
Painter uses caulk, glue, latex, maybe even mud glazing ’cause the homeowner is too cheap to buy quality. (STING)
I must sand EVERYTHING TWICE (60 and 100 grit), remove the glazing with a heat gun, prime, paint and paint. (STUNG)
If you’ve read this far, you now know that “STING” is an acronym for:
(S)CREW (T)HE (N)EXT (G)UY
I’m D*mn tired of being stung!
Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations
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Why are you the one stung?
Did you underbid the job and not expect to find a few glitches?
Now that you've found the glitches you belatedly realize you have not spelled out the terms in your contract to exclude unforeseen circumstances which you could now cover with a change order.
Give yourself an even dozen lashes with a wet noodle if that is the case and consider it tuition in your business world.
I don't work for people who won't pay for all the labor necessary to make a project correct. They know that up front.
I don't understand how other professionals insist on avoiding quality. They instead leave a worse and more expensive situation for the next guy.
Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations
So, what's all the wining about? Sounds like you have excellent job security. ;-)
I hate sanding brick mould. I was cranky.
You've made me see the error of my ways...
Merry Christmas!Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations
I hate doing that kind of stuff too... Merry Christmas to you too and mya you have a blessed holliday.
What's all this sanding about?
I'm doing precisely the same thing for the same reason in my own house now (or rather over the last 5 months with a few more to go). The only sanding I'm doing on the brick mould is after I've chemically stripped all the paint off first, washed thoroughly with soap and water and allowed to dry completely for a while. Then I come back with those foam sandpaper alternatives and knock off the wood fibers sticking out. After, she's like new wood and takes primer nicely.
I'm using SW Accolades paint and that flows great!
Ugh... stripping. You are a dedicated restorer.
I'd rather sand through to the original oil coat (only two layers). I find it easier to prep and cleanup is a "breeze" with compressed air.
SW Oil primer the two coats SW Superpaint with Flotrol to extend its cure/bond. Looks almost good as new.
LOVE those sanding pads for the shutters!
Hope your next few months go well, Pete. Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations
Interesting response.
I'm taking the same point of view as you, thinking all the others in front of me were hacks, yet we're taking two different approaches to the repair.
Which is right?
I mentioned the months it's taking me, but that's due to weather or time available. I'm doing it part time.
But I wouldn't think it possible to remove all of the pre-existing paint without stripping. How can you possibly get into the corners and such with sandpaper enough to get to bare wood? Or is this because my job did have primer before and yours didn't?
Have you had bad experiences with stripping before? I've done a lot of sanding before, but only where necessary. I find the stripping route so much less time consuming.
The first coat is damn well stuck. I can sand the latex off pretty well with used ROS sanding discs (60 grit) and get into the corners quite easily if I fold the disc in "threes".
The advice from SW is what I'm following. He almost, (almost) suggested that I use their Duration brand. I've used, and prefer, it for interior. But, SW won't warranty Duration under my circumstances. So "sand, sand, sand" is the plan.
Besides, the oil primer (did I say I hate this stuff?) has plenty to grip considering the final sanding is with 100 grit. I leave the TSP on until it's almost dry so it will etch any mariginal areas.
I've stripped many an item and none of them were "easy to clean".
Your's won't fail unless you don't clean the stripper well enough. I'll let you know in 15 years whether mine failed. ;-)Troy Sprout
Square, Level & Plumb Renovations