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   Piffin | Jul 28, 2009 06:48pm | #1

   Sure, as long as the rooms are padded and there are those funny looking jackets available - the ones that prevent you from using your arms.

   ;)

   You have me wondering now how a jail gets around the egress requirements

    

    

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   FastEddie | Jul 28, 2009 08:28pm | #4

   Jails pass because there is always a guard on duty and awake."Put your creed in your deed."   Emerson

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   [email protected] | Jul 28, 2009 09:21pm | #6

   Jails get around egress with noncombustible construction, and materials, and sprinklers. 

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   Piffin | Jul 28, 2009 10:50pm | #12

   Shall I tell you about the fires I've responded to in Jails? 

    

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   mike_maines | Jul 29, 2009 03:46am | #15

   Shall I tell you about the fires I've responded to in Jails?

   Please--

   And I'd like to know if PaulB's comment about guards always being awake is a joke or not....

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   Piffin | Jul 29, 2009 03:55am | #16

   I was wondering about that one too. Guards do sleep occasionally.my own theory on that question is that since a cell block is an open space like a dormitory, albeit with some bars dividing portions of it, the entire cell block could qualify as One bedroom, so as long as that one bedroom has an egress or two maintained by guards, sleeping or awake, it would be a method of egress that satisfies the code.Fires in jails are indeed common. Inmates will start fires in trash cans, books, magazines, and bedding just for excitement, and sometimes for a distraction for other nefarious reasons. Paint on the walls will burn as well, so toxic smoke is a part of it all.The structure won't burn down, but the danger to life and health is real. 

    

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   mike_maines | Jul 29, 2009 04:05am | #17

   Of course... cells are just little sleeping alcoves with some safety bars ;-)

    

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   Jeff_Clarke | Jul 29, 2009 04:10am | #18

   It's not the sleeping arrangements but the roommates that are a beyotch ;o)

   Single family only needs one means of egress so one (egress) door is OK.

   Habitable rooms need 8% of the floor area in aggregate glazed area with minimum 4% operable glazinge (IRC).   Bedrooms must have one operable egress opening to the exterior, with specific size requirements.

   Jails are under the IBC.

   Edited 7/28/2009 9:15 pm ET by Jeff_Clarke

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   Piffin | Jul 29, 2009 04:18am | #19

   "Jails are under the IBC."Is IBC the Inmates and Beeches Coalition? 

    

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   Jeff_Clarke | Jul 29, 2009 04:51am | #20

   I Be 'Carcerated ;o)

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   gfretwell | Jul 28, 2009 09:54pm | #7

   More than you want to know about jailshttp://gfretwell.com/electrical/JAILS%20Manual_-_0101087.pdf

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   natedaw | Jul 28, 2009 10:19pm | #8

   Sorry Paul I can only catch 4 channels..maybe I should watch them a little more.

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   PaulBinCT | Jul 28, 2009 10:36pm | #9

   Ah... then you're missing fine fare like "Mysteries of The Masons Revealed"... undoubtedly the truth, the whole truth and nothing but.PaulB

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   FatRoman | Jul 28, 2009 10:40pm | #10

   Wait, is that about Perry, or some other member of the Mason family?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   PaulBinCT | Jul 28, 2009 10:50pm | #11

   Ohhhhhhhhhhhh God...

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   FatRoman | Jul 28, 2009 11:14pm | #13

   You can't fool me. THAT one starred George Burns :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   PaulBinCT | Jul 29, 2009 03:22am | #14

   Those are the jokes that are going to make Gabi say "Daaaaaaaaaaad" in 10 years.PaulB

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   mike_maines | Jul 28, 2009 07:15pm | #2

   There are minimum daylight requirements based on floor area.  Think it's 15% daylight to floor area.  Maybe glass blocks would qualify though?

   Jails seem pretty fireproof....

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   natedaw | Jul 28, 2009 07:53pm | #3

   i've always wondered how Masonic lodges can get away without any windows?

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   PaulBinCT | Jul 28, 2009 08:43pm | #5

   The lodges get away with it because the Masons run the world... don't you watch TV? ;)PaulB

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