I’m putting up about 12 square of of cedar claps on my house, going for the fresh cedar look.
Have decided most likeley on a semi-transparent over a full transparent stain.
Lumber yard guy likes Superdeck, but has Penofin, and no real complaints.
Price is the same.
Now oil based is still the best for this app, correct?
Both companies offer a waterborne finish.
Thanks in advance.
A medium to large guy named Alan, not an ambiguous female….
NOT that there is anything wrong with that.
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Penofin turns black over time. About 5 years or so. I do not know if it can be cleaned to being it back to the new look as it was when applied.
Where's rez when I need him?Anybody else ever stained siding?A medium to large guy named Alan, not an ambiguous female....
NOT that there is anything wrong with that.
The thing I don't like about Penofin is the toxicity, at least the blue and red label lines are oil based and toxic as hell.
I used the original oil based CWF (by Flood) on my house about 25 years ago and it still looks decent - have to hose it off every few years to remove the airborne dirt that accumulates on it though. Getting a little dry, but hey, 25 years for a natural finish?
About 10 years ago I resided a cabin for a customer and CWF was then a water based formula. I see that cabin several times a month and it still looks great from the road.
Check it out. The product name is "CWF" (might stand for "Clear Wood Finish). I think I may have even seen it in Home Depot at one time or another the past few years.Remodeling contractor who once visited the Glass City.
Yeah, my yard has CWF, and it was recommended as a good product.It is my understanding, that modern day sapwood cedar is almost as weather resistant as SPF, so at least a semi-transparent stain is recommended, instead of a clear sealer.Thanks for all the info guys, I guess I'll stick with Super Deck.A medium to large guy named Alan, not an ambiguous female....
NOT that there is anything wrong with that.
I have liked using Sikkens Cetol 1 and 2 in the past. Found a new product last year that they put out called Log and Siding and I used it on exterior White Pine board and batten siding. Lots of folks drive by and stop to look at it.
From the information provided to me, the old finish does not have to be removed when applying a new one. That kind of sold me on it. The price for a pail of this is on the high end. I think the big thing in keeping the siding from going black is to not allow water to drip and splash against it (and plan on recoating every 3-4 years).
http://www.nam.sikkens.com/product.cfm?product_id=44&product_category=exterior
Allan
My former painter used it on his own house. It turns black or dark everywhere, not just from water.
At least it's even. What's bad is that the new addition is not even close to matching.
Doing lots of online research on this a few years ago, Penofin came up many times with the turning black problem. Penofin was not the only one though, thats just the one that I remember. Any oil stain has that potential. The oil is the food for the mold that turns the siding black. To combat that, fungicides are added to the stain. Perhaps under certain conditions the fungicide in Penofin loses it's effectiveness.
Anyway I was looking for stain for a mostly sheltered front porch. T&G Santos Mahogany(I think). I settled on getting the Sikkens Cetol DEK(I think) since it was the only one that claimed to leave a "funiture" like finish. A few years later it still looks beautiful, inspite of heavy traffic and a mat that seems to always be wet or damp. No mold anywhere and no damage in the area under the wet mat.
Based on my experience with this Sikkens product I'd be checking their siding stains.
As far as waterborne finishes, there seemed to be plenty of happy users. I think that Consumer Reports had mentioned that they finally have gotten really good if not better than their oil based equivalents. Also I think that the warranties seem to be better. I still choose the oil based anyway.