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Taking a break from Break Time

DaneB | Posted in Photo Gallery on May 2, 2005 03:14am

Just to let you all know that I have been doing something besides hanging around BT I took some pictures of what I was doing.  Unfortunately 36 of those pictures got double exposed.  So here are some from the next roll of 24.

I had asked in another thread about what I needed to do to take out a wall.  A couple of you told me to have an engineer or a GC look at it to know with certainty what to do, as I not knowing what to look for might not be able to tell you what I was looking at.  I found a GC and he, for the price of a 6 pack of beer, looked at what I had and drew me a picture of what I needed to do.

In the pictures that got double exposed showed  the wall that needed to come out, the placing of the temporary bracing, taking out the wall, making the header and the start of putting the header in place.  The next roll of film starts at this point.

1: one end if the header is in place and the other on a ladder. 

2: it is all most in there but my temporary bracing wasn’t in tight enough to keep things from sagging just a bit.

3: a little assistance from a jack finished the job.

4: the finished product looking from the living room.

5: the finished product looking from the kitchen

The old pictures were deleted and the new ones are posted below.  Thank you for your help.

Dane

I will always be a beginner as I am always learning.


Edited 5/2/2005 11:49 am ET by DaneB


Edited 5/2/2005 11:51 am ET by DaneB

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  1. rez | May 02, 2005 08:41am | #1

    Are you using Irfanview?

    sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

    1. DaneB | May 02, 2005 12:37pm | #2

      Yes I was

      DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

      1. calvin | May 02, 2005 01:46pm | #3

        Dane, save them as jpeg's and post them in that 50-100 size.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        Quittin' Time

        1. DaneB | May 02, 2005 06:58pm | #5

          Thanks for the help.  That did the job.

          DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          1. calvin | May 02, 2005 11:28pm | #8

            dane, you can boost them up to at least 50 KB/640/480.  Those babies as they are, are too small.  Thanks.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            Quittin' Time

      2. rez | May 02, 2005 06:42pm | #4

         See if this might help things along...

         

         

        From: 

        the razzman <!----> 

        7/2/2004 12:10 am 

        To: 

        ARROWSHOOTER <!---->

         (41 of 71) 

         

        24441.41 in reply to 24441.39 

        hmmmm.....

        I have the 'set file associations' under the 'options' checked only on 'JPG/JPEG/JPE' and never do anything else to it.

        If I have a bmp. or something needed to change to a jpg. all I do is click 'set file associations' then click 'OK' and it's done.

        Then I go to the 'Image' click 'Resize/Resample',  shrink it down, usually 600/400 or there abouts, and hit 'OK'.

        Then click 'File' and click 'Save As', then type in the name and click on where I want to save it to, click on the 'save' tab and that's the show.

         

         

        sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

        1. DaneB | May 02, 2005 07:02pm | #6

          Thanks again for the help.  I think you helped me out the last time I tried to post pictures and was having trouble with it.

          I tried to half them one more time but it ended up being down around 25 so I left them at 102.  I hope that isn't to hard on the dial uppers.

          DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          1. rez | May 02, 2005 07:14pm | #7

            If your using the half sizing thingamajig tab that might be the problem.

            When downsizing a large photo just the changing association to jpg can in itself effect the photo and then just clarifying the image size to approx. 640x480 should do the trick.

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

  2. DaneB | May 02, 2005 11:39pm | #9

    Now that I have gone and done a couple of small things and went and took a nap,  I shell try this for a third time to get it right.

    Dane

    I will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

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      Sphere | May 03, 2005 12:48am | #10

      Don't ya just LOVE living in a warzone..???LOL

      Plenty o' that here too...we'll get along jussssssssssss fine.

      Good job on both sizing the pics and the house! 

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

       

      Why look here?

      1. DaneB | May 03, 2005 04:00pm | #14

        Lol!!!   Looks like this all the time and right now it is only me living here.

        Had to move out of the place in order to clean it up so that I could move back into it again.  Where does it all come from?

        I did buy a tool pouch so I could keep track of my tap and pencil, they kept getting buried in it all every time I set them down.

        My biggest problem now is getting it all finished up.  I also have a bad habit of starting projects like this and never finishing them up.  All I have left is putting up the sheet rock with all that is entailed with that.  And it is such a pretty day outside.

        Here are a few more pictures of this project.

        The first 4 pictures shows what I had to do to move the 2 three way light switches to there new location.  They were on the old wall, one on each side of it, according to the location of the light.

        5: shows how I used a plumb bob to make a measurement on the floor, so that the corner would be lined up from top to bottom.

        6: is the finial framing of the chimney.

        DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

        1. GrouchieGrum | May 05, 2005 09:09pm | #33

          Can I ask a dum question?  in your picture lightswitchwiresbefore.jpg, looks like you have two rafters sister'd(hope thats the right terminology)... dont you have to have some support on that sister joint or on both seperate rafters? I know you have support from the beam on the left rafter, but what about the right?

          Just curious if someone can clarify that for me....

           

          1. DaneB | May 06, 2005 05:01pm | #36

            Your right on the terminology as far as the type of joint goes.  The header and wall, that runs the length of the house, are close enough to the joint to support them.

            Because it is stick built on sit the part that you are looking at, as I know of it,  is called the ceiling joist.  If you look at the picture again you will see a piece going diagonally up toward the rafters,  I know it as a brace.  If I am wrong on this terminology I hope that someone else will straighten both of us out.

            If the system is a truss, factory built, it has a list of different terminology.  Here is a link to a BT post that will explain all of that.  http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=56379.10  click on the link to the picture at the bottom.

            Dane

             I will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          2. rez | May 06, 2005 05:13pm | #37

            Dane-

            Anytime I have a wall or something opened up like your chimney pic I like to avail myself with the opportunity of installing new wiring.

            be easier  

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          3. DaneB | May 07, 2005 03:11am | #38

            Now you went and did it.  You made me go down in the basement and poke around and I found all kinds of electrical horror that I didn't know about.  Don't know if I want to sleep here tonight, after all these years of living here.

            I am sure that the original wiring was done according to code at the time, some were around 1960.  But the problem was the previous owner.

            He had finished out the basement and I can remember him telling me so with great pride when we looked at the house to buy it.  That was 11 years ago.

            It looks like for the outlets he did run new romax wiring from the box.  But for the lights he just tapped into the old wiring without using j boxes and mostly twist and tape, and didn't do a very good job of that either.

            Oh well that is the life of working on older houses.  Straightening out messes like that.

            Dane

             I will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

    2. calvin | May 03, 2005 03:24am | #11

      thanks for the resize, you got the touch now.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

      Quittin' Time

    3. rez | May 03, 2005 09:40pm | #15

      Yeah. That's the gumption.

      I put a 20ft barnbeam in my place solo once using comealongs and temp bracing like that.

      What kind of liner do you have in that chimney?

      sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

      1. DaneB | May 04, 2005 01:05am | #16

        I know you had to do some head scratching to figure out how you were going to get that up in there.

        The chimney is lined with those clay looking liners.   You saw the black on the side didn't you.  That was taken care of many years ago.  Had to put one more in at the top and then seal it up around the rim.

        I just looked at the weather and noticed that they have changed it to nice out door work for the next few days.  Guess this in here will be on hold. 

        The wood that I took out of the wall is already cut up for next winter heating.  I don't know what kind of wood it is but it was hard driving a nail into it.  I would bend three to get one in.

        DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

        1. rez | May 04, 2005 06:45pm | #17

          Bet it's old oak. Good for a long night burn.

          The light colored orange/yellow clay tile lining?

          How do you handle the creosote build up?

          Reason I ask is I've been watching my pop for years now and now have been elected to show up and take care of certain things as they arise, the ritual of the chimney cleaning being one of them.

          What he has been doing for the last few decades, since he once had a chimney fire which ended up with the firetrucks and all the neighbors attention, is a couple times during a heating season he burns a bunch of paper to get a good hot flaming fire going in the woodburner.

          What this does is intentionally starts the creosote buildup inside the chimney on fire and burns it to a light fluffy ash which is then scrubbed out with a chimney cleaning wire brush connected to metal conduit lengths.

          First time I saw it done I was concerned of flue cracking and the like but he's been doing this troublefree for about 30 years.

          Just a story, no reason and no charge for that.

          be a burning story

          sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          Edited 5/4/2005 11:47 am ET by the razzman

          1. JohnT8 | May 04, 2005 07:13pm | #18

            The orange colored ash on the left of this pic is the remains of the terracotta-like liner of a fireplace after 75 years of use.  Hard to beat stainless steel.

            View Image

            jt8

            It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

            Edited 5/4/2005 12:14 pm ET by JohnT8

          2. rez | May 04, 2005 07:20pm | #19

            So what's the normal life expectancy of tile liner?

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          3. JohnT8 | May 04, 2005 08:08pm | #20

            So what's the normal life expectancy of tile liner?

            I have no idea.  I imagine there are a lot of variables involved.  For instance how hot were they burning the fire.  If the chimney is on an outside wall or inside.  Climate of the area.  Design/thickness of the liner, etc...etc...etc.

            But I'm willing to pretend that SS will outlive it.  jt8

            It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

          4. rez | May 04, 2005 08:22pm | #21

            Yes, having the potential to later line a flue with smooth walled stainless is a pleasent thought.

            I question the use of those long length flex liner deals. Seems it would complicate cleaning with thick buildup in the corragated folds.

            Can't see much else to do if there's a bend in the chimney somewhere tho. 

            be 'Bartender, I'll take mine straight up'

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          5. DaneB | May 05, 2005 12:28am | #22

            I try to burn as little pine as I can.  Pine will stay full of pitch for a long time and pitch is what creates the creosote.  I use it to get the fire started then switch over to a well seasoned hard wood such as oak, locust or apple if I can find it.  The hardwoods burn hotter, longer, has less smoke and leaves very little ash.

            If I cut a live hardwood tree today with it full of sap it would be winter 07/08 before I could burn it.  If I wait until the fall when they let the sap down then I could burn it in the winter of 06/07 at the earliest.  I have a dead tree along the driveway that if I cut it now I should be able to burn it this winter.  I try and go for those.  I have been known to go in a couple of years after an area was clear cut and get my wood.  I go for the limbs that they left behind, don't have to split it.

            An other source of wood is an old house or barn that is past preserving or restoring.  Any pine that I might find in one of those old buildings will be dry enough to not hurt much.  Most of those old buildings the framing in them was built with hardwoods, mostly oak.  We heated this house for three winters from an old house that we paid $5 for.  Anything that still has a finish on it we try to find someone with one of those out door wood stoves because it is to toxic to burn in the house.  It has lead in it.

            IMHO I think wood heat is the best.  Yes it is a hassle getting the wood and tending to the fire, but it doesn't need electricity to keep the house warm.

            DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          6. rez | May 05, 2005 08:05am | #23

            And there's nothing to compare with coming in cold to stand up next to a woodstove and let it warm you one side thru to the other.

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

        2. zbalk | May 05, 2005 01:19pm | #24

          DaneB,

          All those pics look like and remind me of an 1880s, 2 story Victorian I once rebuilt in Durango, Colorado; took three years.  No water, electricity or heat; just a creek out back, hand tools and a dirt floor basement.  Your housekeeping is better though, than mine was.  When you're finished, you'll be in heaven and probably find lots of stuff you hadn't seen in ages.             Zbalk

          1. DaneB | May 05, 2005 04:24pm | #25

            Here is another house that the wife and I own.

            http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=55246.1

            DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          2. JohnT8 | May 05, 2005 06:22pm | #26

            Just a glutton for punishment, aren't you?  :)jt8

            It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

          3. zbalk | May 05, 2005 06:25pm | #27

            Dane,  Wow.  That other house you posted pictures of in March is really going to keep you busy.  Lots of luck.  I assume you'll sell one or the other.  The place I rehabed in Durango in the early 70' I bought for $12K and sold for $120K.  Was a good thing that I had a day job with Frontier Airlines as I calculated the worth of my labor at $75K total for three years; as an investment, it wasn't.  Used lots and lots of recycled materials from an architectural salvage place in Albuquerque and a falling down bungalow in Telluride that was almost free.  Price even the shacks in Telluride now, hardly touchable.  I even took down an exterior rear brick wall  to build a hearth and wall surround for the wood stove and to rebuild and corbel four chimneys, and then added on a sunroom to the vacant wall.  I think that your recent pic of your interior wall removal is what stirred my recollection of that "experience" out West.  One cautionary note, take lots of breaks to spend  time with your spouse.  My otherwise rock-solid marriage didn't quite survive.  That will add only another year to the project and be well worth it.    Zbalk  (Jerry)  

          4. rez | May 05, 2005 07:38pm | #28

            I understand. Those houses in your area have something worth working towards to restore.

            Some old houses are just a basic shell and that's pressing it a bit.

             

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          5. zbalk | May 05, 2005 07:46pm | #29

            good god razzman,

            Hope you didn't buy that shell on Pooh Corner.  Apt location name.   Zbalk

          6. DaneB | May 05, 2005 08:26pm | #30

            That house is in good shape.  It still has the skin on it.

            DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          7. rez | May 05, 2005 08:43pm | #31

            Ha.

            The original building in the front had old growth redwood clapboards underneath that insulbrick asphalt impregnated fiberboard stuff.

            No sheathing.

            Cut my teeth on that old house.

            Done wore 'em out it did.

            Bloomin' thing went and stole a good portion of my life too.

            And it ain't done.

            Oh the pain, the pain.

            be a broken pane

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          8. rez | May 05, 2005 08:46pm | #32

            How the rafters on the low pitched ell were uncovered ...

            sobriety is the root cause of dementia.

          9. DaneB | May 06, 2005 04:14pm | #35

            That's what I am going to have to do to that house over in Richmond,VA.  It also has the same type of cover over the clapboard and has been on waaaaaay past what it should have been. (should have never been put on) 

            I sure that there are some things that we are doing today with houses that will be discovered to be not so good in the future.  But that is the evolution of things like that.

            Well I guess I had better get going, try to get something done around here.

            My good lawn mower spit a bunch of oil out the side of it yesterday so I have to look into that.  I have another one that I don't like and am hoping I can swap the engines.  If it isn't one thing it is always something else to get in the way.  OH well such is life.

            DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

          10. JohnT8 | May 05, 2005 11:14pm | #34

            Watch your step going out that side door 8o

            View Imagejt8

            It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness. --Chinese proverb  

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    JDRHI | May 03, 2005 03:52am | #12

    Dane.....hate to be the wet noodle of the bunch....but is the GC you payed so handsomely going to be held responsable should this header not quite make the grade?

    Got any pics of what those header jacks are sittin` on? Some type off foundation I`m assuming.

    Sorry for the attitude....but I`m always skeptical of advice payed for in beer.

    ATTENTION FELLOW BREAKTIME MEMBERS:

    If you`d like to discuss topics other than home building, come on down to the Woodshed Tavern. Great bunch of guys and gals letting off a little steam about everything and anything. Its not a special club, but.....as of Monday, March 14, the Tavern folder will go behind an access wall. Only those who request access to this folder by contacting [email protected] will be able to view and participate in discussions there.

    1. DaneB | May 03, 2005 06:02am | #13

      Its not a wet noodle at all.  Just one mate looking after another.

      As far as the GC goes I have already forgotten his name.  When I paid him I did it on his job site.  He had the floor sheathed in and was getting ready to frame up the walls for the first floor.  His bond number is on the side of his van.  I don't think that I have much to worry about.

      The jack studs are sitting over the top of a cinder block wall that runs the full length of the basement.

      DaneI will always be a beginner as I am always learning.

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