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I am currently fastening 3/4″ OSB to 14guage steel joists.
The connection is with adhesive and #10 TEK-3 screws.
About 1 out of 4 screws gets a burned drill point and fails.
Could this be a “hard-spot” in the steel, our technique, or the TEKs?
Any other attachment ideas?
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Are you putting them in with a drywall-type (i.e. high-speed) gun, or a cordless ? I can only get them to work with the drywall gun (not sure if that means you need a drywall gun or I'm doing it wrong, but that's what happens to me).
*Could be that the glues are gumming up the drill point. you need to get through the wood faster,3/4 is a lot of crud for a bit that was designed to go through 2 maybe 3 sheets of 12to20 ga. metal . Maybe you could start them with a hammer . I never had that problem, but a twist drill will fill its flutes very fast in wood and over heat if you don't clean it out often. TEKs have even less space and no outlet for the shavings.
*How 'bout using better quality screws, or if they are (already better quality,) how 'bout drilling pilots. Also, maybe grit inclusions in the OSB are dulling the Teks just enough to make 'em fail. Call McFeeley's 1 800 443-7937 they might have a take on what you 're dealing with.
*You might want to also contact DB Building Fasteners at http://www.tekscrew.com/ They handle TEK fasteners and have e-mail contact provisions on their home page. (Disclaimer: I have never dealt with them)
*Try using tek screws with wings on them. have used them alot with securing 2x materials to 14 gauge and also to steel I beams and posts. I always use an electric drywall gun with 2500 rpm. The 4000 rpm guns tend to burn out tips. The wings will drill a larger pilot hole through wood. When wings hit steel they sheer off and the drill tip does its job in the steel.Buildex makes the screws I use.
*OK OK ,,THIS MAY SOUND DUMB BUT IT DOES WORK WITH WOOD AND TECHS,First take the teck and drive it to the steel if it does not go right in hit reverse and bring screw up then push in in reverse the screw will drill the wood out enough that it can drill the steel efectively wow if i spelled that right im impressed.any ways the wood binds the screws shaft enough where the tip gets hot and blues if this dosnt work i have to charge ya for "plan B" LATER
*Martin, Fastener choice makes all the difference. Ask your local supplier or go to a national manufacturer. I've done like Rocko suggests but I've also had someone supply me the correct fastener and generally choose the latter. Rocko that is still good advice when the right screw can't be had. Skip
*MartinCould be a combination of all the above. * RPM of screw gun is too high* Too much presure by operator* Screw type not designed for guage of metalHilti makes a screw designed for attaching decking to steel studs. We have used them with good results.Vince McCauleyJeri-Lyyn Construction CompanySpecializing in Steel Frame HomesNorman, Ok
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I am currently fastening 3/4" OSB to 14guage steel joists.
The connection is with adhesive and #10 TEK-3 screws.
About 1 out of 4 screws gets a burned drill point and fails.
Could this be a "hard-spot" in the steel, our technique, or the TEKs?
Any other attachment ideas?