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THINGS THAT NEED TO BE RE-DESIGNED

| Posted in General Discussion on January 15, 2003 06:30am

THINGS THAT NEED TO BE RE DESIGNED   List

One that I have seen even this week (customer picked up) is those “universal” latchbolts on doorknob locksets with the combination “drive in” (which I hate) or “slide the rectangle plate on but it doesn’t capture the” bolt …. THEN… it lets the latchbolt WORK OUT OF THE DOOR 1/4 inch or so and HIT THE JAMB.  (There is a remedy for it, but you should’t have to rework it). 

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  1. Jencar | Jan 15, 2003 08:06am | #1

    Whose idea were those, anyway? To cut manufacturing costs? They are a pain...Kwikset, right? Sometimes I have my kid install the latch and leversets, she gave up trying with those kind...

    Jen

    1. don26299 | Jan 15, 2003 04:30pm | #2

      >> Kwikset, right?

      No, in this case Schlage.  I may be mistaken but I think Kwikset has solved this with a "sandwich" of inner and outer plates.

  2. YesMaam27577 | Jan 16, 2003 01:00am | #3

    The hammer stapler!

    It needs to be much more jam-proof; it needs to hold more staples; and there needs to be an offset in the handle, so that my knuckles do not contact the roof at the same time as the nose of the tool

    1. MisterT | Jan 16, 2003 02:35pm | #10

      Hammer stapler!!!

      Make them so they hold six racks instead of two.

      How mny times have you been on the top of an extension ladder wishing your tacker coulreach another eight inches  so you don't have to climb down and move the ladder, and climb back up just to put in a the last few staples?

      Mr TDo not try this at home!

      I am a trained professional!

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    CloudHidden | Jan 16, 2003 04:00am | #4

    Safety switches on tools that are set all wrong for lefties. I have some that are by the tip of the finger of the right hand, but are therefore right under the meat of the finger of the left hand. In squeezing the trigger, you set the safety too.

    1. billyg83440 | Jan 16, 2003 06:46pm | #11

      Not sure what you mean by safety switches.

      Do you mean trigger locks. My saber saw I often acidentally lock the trigger just in normal use. My jig saw also. Those need redesigned.

      But my drill, it takes 2 hands w/ much dexterity to use that trigger lock. <g>

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        CloudHidden | Jan 16, 2003 10:01pm | #13

        Elec staple gun has a safety. OK, it's a trigger lock, but it locks the trigger off, rather than on. What a nuisance.

        In some ways the trigger locks you mention are worse than the one I thought of. For safety, I'd rather have something not turn on, than not turn off. "Let's just leave that ol' circular saw running--haven't hit a major vein yet!" <G>

  4. fdampier5 | Jan 16, 2003 04:34am | #5

    Tablesaws, drill presses, shapers, lathe, bandsaws, all need to be at the same height!  that way you can set a board on the table saw and use the compound mitre saw, or whatever,  as the holder for the other end.

    1. Piffin | Jan 16, 2003 05:49am | #6

      I was thinking of certain software that could stand re-design, like Prospero, for instance....

      Excellence is its own reward!

      1. rez | Jan 16, 2003 08:59am | #7

        What's the matter Pif? You been getting 'Prospero'd'? ROAR!Character? I never had any problem with character. Why, people've been telling me I was one every since I was a kid.

         

         

        1. Piffin | Jan 16, 2003 09:03am | #8

          There are times I get all tangled up here like Tarzan battling the octopus. .

          Excellence is its own reward!

          1. riverr1 | Jan 16, 2003 09:19am | #9

            Roofs should be redesigned so working on em is ground floor work. Roofing materials should be redesigned so they weigh next to nothing. Days off should be redesigned so that they only fall on good weather days. Boots should be redesigned so mud don't stick to em. 58ths drywall should be redesigned so that it floats to the ceilings. Porta johns should be redesigned with better lighting on overcast days for reading. Plenty more where these came from! ;-)

            Don

          2. Piffin | Jan 16, 2003 09:23pm | #12

            Now we're talkin'!

            Man after my own heart as they say..

            Excellence is its own reward!

          3. berg | Jan 17, 2003 09:34pm | #20

            WOMEN----Park????????

      2. don26299 | Jan 18, 2003 11:16pm | #32

        >>I was thinking of certain software that could stand re-design, like Prospero, for instance...

        I decided to put a couple of things in my profile and the Prospero program FORCED me to take a astrological sign.  I'm not wound too tight about this, but I picked CHOOSE ONE.  It wouldn't accept that.  Isn't this unconstitutional or something? 

        1. don26299 | Jan 18, 2003 11:18pm | #33

          How about redesigning the art of putting tags right where you need to glue?  Or tags that won't come off without removing paint!?

          1. YesMaam27577 | Jan 19, 2003 07:21am | #37

            I think that a number of cars need to be redesigned, so that the gas-filler door is on the same side of all cars. It ticks me off when I need to park on the right side of the pump, but all of the right-sides are taken with cars pointed in the wrong direction.

    2. JohnSprung | Jan 18, 2003 03:53am | #24

      My grandfather did that in his shop -- picked the highest one, and made bases for the others to bring them up to match.

      -- J.S.

  5. fredsmart48 | Jan 16, 2003 10:05pm | #14

    13, 15, 17,  year old girls. 

    1. billyg83440 | Jan 16, 2003 10:52pm | #15

      Redesign girls, wow that's a can of worms.

      Ever hear the joke about the engineer who finds a magic lamp.

      He rubs the lamp and out pops a genie and tells him he can only grant one wish. The engineer wishes to be world famous, so he states he wants to be the engineer to build an overland highway from LA to Hawai. The genie hems and haws, finally says that's impossible you'll have to wish for something else. The engineer says well then I want to understand women. The genie looks at him and says 2 lanes or 4?

    2. UncleDunc | Jan 16, 2003 10:59pm | #16

      The even numbered years work OK?

      1. Piffin | Jan 17, 2003 04:14am | #17

        I think all parking for teenaged girls needs to be redesigned.

        When daughter was home for the holidays, every single lassie who came by managed to park right smack dab in the middle of the whole parking area so no one else could come or go..

        Excellence is its own reward!

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          BossHog | Jan 17, 2003 05:19pm | #18

          What is it with women and parking, anyway?

          I saw a show on the Discovery channel the other night where they tested men & women on parking cars. It took women 3 times longer than men to park a car.

          When we were building our garage, I couldn't convince DW that she couldn't pull right up to the overhead door while we were putting the plywood on the roof, or putting shingles up. She constantly parked in the way.Women.Can't live with 'em. Can't shoot 'em. [Al Bundy]

          1. Mugsy | Jan 17, 2003 08:14pm | #19

            Saw a woman trying to parallel park in the space right in front of me yesterday.  She pulled up ahead of the space ok, and all looked well as she started to back up and turn the rear of the car into the space.  But I don't think she got the concept too well.  She way overcut it, and wound up almost 90 degrees from where she had started, completely blocking the traffic lane. She seemed to get flustered and pulled forward and backward a few times, never improving much on her first attempt. She finally gave up and left.

            Several men were noticed to be enjoying their lunch hour more than usual :-)

          2. Nails | Jan 18, 2003 02:09am | #21

            Hi B,H.   Have you heard any input on GMC with 4 wheel steering ,looking forward to the lady of the house parking something like that ,come to think of it I may not be very good at either. Still working on 5 Star Singers, thanks for reminding me.

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            BossHog | Jan 18, 2003 03:42am | #23

            Haven't talked to anyone who's driven one of the 4 wheel steering trucks. They look kinda neat, though.

            I don't know how much good they'd do backing up. I suppose it would be helpful once you got the hang of it.Silent company is often more healing than words of advice.

        2. DaveHeinlein | Jan 18, 2003 03:02am | #22

          It's not parked, it's abandoned! The UPS drivers learned from them!

          1. Piffin | Jan 18, 2003 05:37am | #25

            I think that women come with an inborn talent for self worship. We men feed that and further it by worshipping them ourselves and putting them on pedestles. They get used to being admired and want to help us out, so they park where it's easier for us to notice them.

            The problem with backing up comes from the same source. They are taught from an early age that the mirrors on the car or truck are for them to put makeup on, adding to the decorative effect, or in idle moments, to simply admire themselves. The mirrors have absolutely nothing to do with backing up.

            If I have to back down our quarter mile long driveway and do it at thirty miles per hour with just a casual glance in the mirror, not even turning my head around, my wife clutches something to hold on tight and makes noises like you hear on those thriller movies. What's that all about anyway?

            .

            Excellence is its own reward!

          2. DaveHeinlein | Jan 18, 2003 07:22am | #26

            The makeup application in the car- I think that's called fardding, maybe someone will confirm this. Kinda funny though "Dad, mom was fardding in the car again"

          3. Piffin | Jan 18, 2003 07:44am | #27

            There's a word that could stand to be re-designed....

            Excellence is its own reward!

          4. mitch | Jan 18, 2003 06:34pm | #28

            i used to have an '84  3/4 ton 4x4 GMC that, for whatever useful reason I cannot imagine, hauled #### in reverse!  just for fun one night when I was leaving a friend's softball game, I noticed that I could just back out of my parking space straight all the way to the exit of the dirt lot- about 100 yards away.  So I get going about- who knows? 35- 40 miles an hour- and figure I'll just swing a neat 180 at the end (like you see the stunt drivers do so easily in the movies) and drive out of the lot. BTW-Has anybody ever noticed how so many things work so much better in the movies than in real life?- Yeah, me too.

            Anyway, I jerk the wheel and instead of snapping smartly around in a nice tight circle I immediately realize there is apparently far more available traction than I had been counting on and I am flying back asswards towards the right field fence of one of the diamonds (of course there was a game in progress)! At the last possible instant the truck completes its 180 and I am parked so close to the fence, in an enormous cloud of dust, that my mirror was almost touching.  And I'm staring at a terrified right fielder.

            walked into the bar a few minutes later and my friend says, "That didn't work quite the way you planned, did it?"

            m

          5. Piffin | Jan 18, 2003 07:32pm | #29

            I've got a stepson who mixed his driving fantasies from TV with some C6H12O6 and almost died from flipping his truck when he found out the same thing. There are training classes to find out how to do stuff like this.

            But I still laughed my butt of at your story.

            BTW, the most common accident for most police cars is in reverse. They have to get out of the parking lot at Dunkin Doughnuts to respoind to an emergency call. It's usually the passenger side front fender that clips something on the turning swing. I always backed in so I was ready to go.

            Excellence is its own reward!

            Edited 1/18/2003 11:35:40 AM ET by piffin

          6. Haole27 | Jan 18, 2003 07:47pm | #30

            women back up like they are steering the QEII, especially older ones, but when they get it in forward, they drive way too fast through parking lots on their way to the next sale...i have read that parking lots have the highest concentration accidents per mile driven (i believe it as the numerator is high and the denominator is low)

            generally speaking, women make driving errors because of lack of skill (backing up and hitting poles, cars, etc)  men make them due to lack of good judgement (high speed, single car accidents)

          7. riverr1 | Jan 19, 2003 05:31am | #34

            Hmmm, not sure I like the idea of redesigning women????? Some things are just right.

            Don

          8. CAGIV | Jan 19, 2003 05:51am | #35

            The design of women is just fine, but they need a little hi-tech refinement such as...

          9. jgaiennie | Jan 19, 2003 09:53pm | #44

            Funny...  but then I'm a guy.

            Obviously, you're comfortable with your current level of female friends and aren't looking to attract any new ones.

            jdg

          10. DaveHeinlein | Jan 19, 2003 07:16am | #36

            I don't know, I think they have the most accidents because they don't pay attention to what the hell they are doing.

          11. Jencar | Jan 19, 2003 09:16am | #38

            You boys have the wrong thread...I think you want "What's Wrong with Women?" Since you have us out numbered here, doesn't seem quite fair. I'd start a "Why are Men Such Knuckleheads?" thread, but Theodora would be the only one to write back to tell me I was being politically incorrect.

            For every lame woman, there is a clueless male, parks his Suburban in a compact space, crashes his lumber cart into the legs of the person in line in front of him, blows the months mortgage at the racetrack, flirts with the bimbo at the donut store, thinking he might get lucky while the wife's out of town.

            MEN need to be re-designed, all there is to it. They should be able to cook, help a kid with their homework, organize the linen closet, clean out the refrigerator, keep it in their pants, smell good, smile and cheer you up, pay the bills on time, and know how to pack a suitcase. OMG...then they'd be gay!

            Jen 8P

          12. CAGIV | Jan 19, 2003 10:20am | #39

            Jen,

              In responce to your comments I offer you the he-remote, the counterpart to the one I posted earlier :)

          13. Jencar | Jan 19, 2003 10:30pm | #46

            I'll take one! With a few modifications...instead of flowers, perfume, chocolate, and jewelry...I want it to say "Footrub, Quickie, Unlimited credit at HD, and Carry Tools and Stuff to My Truck".

            Jen 8P

          14. CAGIV | Jan 19, 2003 10:42pm | #47

            I want it to say "Footrub, Quickie, Unlimited credit at HD, and Carry Tools and Stuff to My Truck".

            Funny, I think most guys here would love the same remote, brings new meaning the universal remote :)

          15. Jencar | Jan 19, 2003 11:01pm | #48

            We're not so different, after all! (Universal Remote, that's a good one!)

            Gave me an idea...a dating service to hook up guys and gals in construction. What would it be called...FH Singles...maybe they were serious when they added a "Singles Ad" line to the User Profile...

            Jen 8P

          16. CAGIV | Jan 19, 2003 11:38pm | #49

            Better be careful with the singles ad's this forum could take a serious nose dive from there :)

          17. rez | Jan 19, 2003 04:50pm | #40

            I don't think the queer guys have a propensity to 'keep it in their pants'.

            Roar!Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

            The other...proper application of risk.

             

             

          18. Haole27 | Jan 19, 2003 06:40pm | #41

            funny remotes, I had seen/downloaded one of those before, now where was it?

            Edited 1/19/2003 10:42:57 AM ET by Haole27

          19. Haole27 | Jan 19, 2003 06:43pm | #42

            here it is:

          20. Jencar | Jan 19, 2003 10:24pm | #45

            Good ROAR morning to you!

            The spread of "Loose Zipper Syndrome" (an STD) can be attibuted to

            loosies of any gender or orientation! here on Mars we have 7 sexes...you think male female relationships are complicted!

            Gonna cut a hole in my wall and install a casement window where the old AC used to be...it's already headed out, just need to find my diamond blade to cut the stucco.

            JenMar 8P

          21. Piffin | Jan 20, 2003 12:07am | #50

            " clean out the refrigerator, keep it in their pants, smell good,"

            If I kept a clean refridgerator in my pants...

            never mind!.

            Excellence is its own reward!

          22. Jencar | Jan 20, 2003 12:35am | #51

            Is it stocked? Your wife could get a snack at night without getting out of bed...;)

            Jen 8P

          23. heck22 | Feb 02, 2003 05:41pm | #52

            I just ran into something else that needs redesigning:

            Quart spray bottles. You know, like the kind windex comes in.

            Have you ever had one spray more than 3 times??

            What's up wit' that???

            jwwhat the heck was I thinking?

          24. rez | Feb 02, 2003 06:20pm | #53

            Ya, that's right. In the old days they would last forever now your lucky if the thing lasts the use of the original product.Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

            The other...proper application of risk.

             

             

          25. Boxduh | Feb 02, 2003 08:08pm | #54

            Our ridiculous measurement practice (feet - inches - fractions).  A metric sheet of ply or OSB would be 1200 x 2400, and studs and joists would be on centers of 400.  It didn't take so long for the wine and spirits and bottled water folks to convert, did it?

            Edited 2/3/2003 7:22:22 PM ET by Mr. Micro

          26. heck22 | Feb 03, 2003 12:03am | #55

            Got another one:

            Upright vacuum cleaners. Why does the power cord come out of the machine at ankle height? Are we supposed to trip and vacuum the cord up for some reason I can't fathom?Can you tell me why the on/off switch is mounted so low on the machine? Is that so we can take a stab at turning it off on our way down after tripping on the ##@%# cord?

            jw

            LOL -  edited to  laugh at the fact that you can now email to my cursing! Ain't poopsero wonderful?

            what the heck was I thinking?

            Edited 2/2/2003 4:05:51 PM ET by Heck

          27. mitch | Jan 18, 2003 11:01pm | #31

            i've since learned there are a few tricks to the maneuver- the main key being to quickly tip the steering wheel in one direction before performing the big overcorrection in the opposite direction to make the turn-around.  brake and gas timing is also important.  i never really did get very good at it but it was fun trying it in big empty dirt parking lots whenever the opportunity presented itself.  as you might imagine, my inaugural attempt was a little less fun and ALOT more exciting than i had originally planned.

            it took me a sec to figure out your coded reference- you meant, of course, EtOH?

            m

  6. rez | Jan 19, 2003 07:15pm | #43

    Re-design homes so the missus will let you lean back in a kitchen chair and build furniture so you don't have to use a damn coaster ever time you want to set a drink down on it. Sheesh! Might as well live in a morgue.

    Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

    The other...proper application of risk.

     

     

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