I guess do to lack of space the grinder/pumper for a basement toilet is inside the room and looks awful. So the homeowner wants a box to cover it up. Of course it will have to be removable, but I’m looking for opinions on what I came up with or new ideas.
I have 1 sheet of 3/4 walnut veneer plywood and enough left over trim to make what I’ve shown in my sketchups. The pipes snake out each way because it picks up a wetbar sink and the bath sink too.
This one with plywood top recessed about a 1/4″ or so
This one wit a slanted top not much good for resting much on but magazines but it was suggested so I tried to draw it.
This one with a solid walnut top I think I can join out of two pieces I have around the whole top would be less than 11″ so its not huge. I’m leaning toward this one.
Looking for opinions, comments, changes or even bad words, just want feedback. Oh yea Im probably going to do it tomrrow.
Edited 3/29/2009 8:02 am ET by danno7x
Edited 3/29/2009 8:11 am ET by danno7x
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Whatever yoo do, make sure the bottom is held off the floor by a half-inch or so, to keep water from wicking into the wood.
I guess I forgot to mention its a 1/2 bath shouldnt be too bad with the water. Unless theres a leak then the box will be the least of their problems, considering the money they got tied up in here.
I don't care if it's the Taj Mahal. In a bathroom water will get on the floor eventually. You need to avoid having wood in direct contact with the floor.
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What about the baseboard, or the vanity, or the floor itself thats also wood? I just dont understand where your comming from. How do you keep all that wood off the floor?
What are you getting at? Yea water will get on the floor and yea I expect someone to wipe it up. Do I want it to run under the vanity, this thing, or the baseboard where someone cant get to it and clean it up? I dont think so.
I'm just saying. This thing is behind the toilet. All toilets leak (or sweat) eventually.Baseboard is generally run horizontally with no exposed end grain to absorb moisture. A vanity generally has a kick.
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Well this is what I did today, everyone seems to like it so I guess thats all that matters. Now I did hold that plywood off the floor about a 1/4 just for you.
But seriously I guess it made me think why not. Its got to be cleaned up, a little stain and finish applied but you get the idea
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Edited 3/30/2009 9:18 pm ET by danno7x
It needs a matching wall cab up above the box you put in. For storage of extra TP, tools, and bikini wax.
Cereally, I've installed these high rear toilet cabs in our house and they are great. Maybe even glass doors?
I like the looks of the cover much better than without, and I think a cabinet above would be nice too.One question though.. Is that receptacle the pumper is plugged into, now considered unaccessible, code wise?May not be a problem for you, or me, but might be for someone else looking to do this.
I don't think accessible means just in plane site. We have dozens of receptacles above a drop ceiling. They are all accessible, even though you have to climb a ladder and remove a tile to get to them.
If the top lifts off the box and you can reach the recpt., then I would think it is accessible.
Well top comes off the box so its accessable. Its a weird thing that "accessible" just if someone can get to it its accessible.
That dosent mean anyone would know where to find it though
Could that unit be replaced w/out pulling the toilet? I haven't had to deal with one of those, but when we have a whirlpool pump, there's gotta be a big enough hole that a doughnut eating plumber can get in, and get the pump out<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
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Yep there should be plenty of room, just unhook the pipes unplug and take it out.
Problem is that when it needs to be worked on usually the outlet pipe is backed up with sh!t, and the other pipes are backed up with more sh!t. So the box will come out of there fairly easy, take top off and remove two screws, unhook the drain pipe comming from the back of the toilet (supposedly has backflow preventer)and the water line then the box comes out and maybe could get some buckets under the pipes or something as its unhooked.
Belive it or not that outlet pipe that goes to the main drain comming from the grinder/pumper is ment to be 3/4", I think he bumped it up to 1" to help with clogs, but I belive it couldnt be any bigger than that either though.
That makes sense.. I hadn't even thought of the top coming off
The recessed top would be a dust collector and look unfinished.
Why a fancy walnut cover? For behind a toilet, I'd opt for something simple, painted, and easily cleaned<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com
I went down to the lobby
To make a small call out.
A pretty dancing girl was there,
And she began to shout,
"Go on back to see the gypsy.
He can move you from the rear,
Drive you from your fear,
Bring you through the mirror.
He did it in Las Vegas,
And he can do it here."
To match the rest of it silly.
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Edited 3/29/2009 9:21 am ET by danno7x
Recessed top-- I think your right, it was suggested so I went with it.
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1/2 bath in basement/ showroom/ poker room/ "man cave". No water on floor or flying about.
1/2 bath in basement/ showroom/ poker room/ "man cave". No water on floor or flying about.
Just pee!
I'd like something impervious. Take the cover out to the driveway and hose it off!
i would go ahead and continue the cabinet upwards,maybe even to the ceiling,with a couple doors shelves glass doors etc. make it look like that was what was in the plan ,was cabentry behind the toliet.
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Thats a good thought, although I picture working on it to be much more difficult. Of all the pictures I have I dont have one of that to show how small it is, but its like 5x7, that piece might feel pretty big for that space.
Then I thought I could add on to option 3 with an independent top that comes off, screwed to the wall, so that could be taken down then the bottom lifted off, to work on the grinder (which apparently is a question of when not if).
My vote goes to the walnut top. Don't see any reason to recess the top, and the slanted top looks like a reading pedastal for when your peeing.
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Your drawings indicate that this throne is sitting out in the middle of a room. For meaningful advice I suggest a photo of the toilet in its space.
Good point, I dont have one, have lots of pictures but plain ole forgot to do that one
Personally, I dislike the look of wood in bathrooms. and yea, there's always potential leaks and pee missing the bowl. Ick.
IMO the covering would look best in sheetrock, painted to match the walls and built to look like a sort of wall bump-out rather than a box in the room. And as someone suggested, have it go up high, possibly to ceiling with shelves and maybe nice cabinet doors. you could make panels on lower sides removable for access. Would look more logical and pleasing that way.