Here is a brand new home.
I am trying to figureout what the wart (dormer) is doing on the roof.
I as a ad in the realestate section and it just jumped out at me.
It is not clear from that picture, but roof is a gambrel with the break at those roof vents about 1/2 way up.
These are townhouses and the garage that you see is for the other half.
This unit’s grage has been converted into the sales office.
So the “dornmer” is in garge.
This are single story homes. So I see absolutley no use for that dormer functionally and certainly not for looks.
Other views.
http://www.interactiveplatmaps.com/platmap/details.php?lot_id=2163
http://www.foxfieldcourt.com/foxfield_mp_cassidy_plans.php
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
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Yea, that dormer looks pretty odd. Are you sure there is not a "bonus room" above the garage? Really. I don't like the general layout of the facade.... These narrow lots these days end up with some odd looking stuff. When looking at the pic I was wondering why it looks like the driveway comes right up to the front door but then there is a garage door over on the left??? I guess the sales office explains that???
I like the color scheme anyway. That half high stone stuff is just a leak found a place to happen though.
Just up the street from here there is a new sub of 800k houses and most all have the garage is sticking out the front - and the lots aren't even that narrow. Go figure...
None of the "features" or the floor plan indicate any kind of bonus room..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Yea - as a builder type I have to sometimes use my imagination when identifying feathres. :-) If you are really good, you can "transform" F-ups into "feathres". :-)
Awfully high peak to the left for a single story isn't it?
I fear no man & only one GOD. Me
Looks stupid.
The room in photo 9 looks pretty bad, too. It's a big room with two tiny little windows shoved into one corner.
I thought this was the title for a special annual issue of FHB! It might sell better than the regular Houses issue. Everyone slows down to gawk at a wreck.
Bill
Don't want to live in Foxfield Court? It's a Matt Adam Community!
Looks a tad bit odd, but much nicer than the miles of souless tract homes we saw in Las Vegas last summer. They were painted a very unattractive shade of brown. Little boxes, all the same.
Should have taken a tip from Daly City.
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky-tacky,
Little boxes, little boxes,
Little boxes, all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky-tacky
And they all look just the same.
At least down in the Baja, at Turtle Bay, where everything looks brown, the houses are a riot of color: Red, blue, yellow (chrome), pink, fuschia. Wait, over there - that's a fuschia outhouse. Nice curtains.
The ToolBear
"Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.
Are you kiddin me?
That can't be the ugliest home you can find pictures of on the net.
If you're tryin to start some kinda contest, then ya , that's a pretty good start, but give me a couple of weeks, I'll come up with somethin worse.
I think this should be a contest, but only houses within a couple of miles of where you live should be eligable.
Agreed ; But do we have to say whether we've worked on them?
Yeah fingers, but what makes me shake my head in disbelief may be someone's idea of a dream castle, who am I to say? People buy the crap and call it home.As a remodeler, building an addition that matches the existing structure and lot aesthetically seems obvious to anyone. Then I take a drive around town and find it doesn't seem to be a universal concept.
Last week I had to fly East, and got a good view of Calgary, Toronto and Montreal from the air. What a depressing picture. Apart from the historical districts, the new residential construction is uniformly awful. And poor Calgary is too young to have any nice old buildings either. That's not to say that you can't drive around and find some very fine new projects, but they are buried in a sea of mediocrity.
may be someone's idea of a dream castle
Nah, only a quarter-mill price tag, that's a tract subdivision of "starters," most places.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
>I am trying to figureout what the wart (dormer) is doing on the roof.
There was a contest for "greatest number of roof lines". They needed a couple more.
Well, if it were Vegas, (where they don't build basements), it might be an enclosure for the air handler on the heat pump system. They used to stick them on the roof, but now most of the newer areas ban them from the roof, so they stick them in the attic. I never could quite figure out what aesthetic they were trying to preserve.
A buddy of mine bought a new hose that had the air handler built into the attic, then the sheathing and tile installed. Neither one of us could figure out how anyone could service it, once the "lifetime" bearings wore out, and needed replacement. He sold it after a year and moved to one with the air handler in the garage.
> if it were Vegas, (where they don't build basements)If only that was the case! Current design (disclosed with client's permission <g>) concerns building over a house that burned last year. New house going over old basement with larger footprint. Combine that with Clark County's infamous permitting process, and you have a perfect storm. Without the existing basement, we'd have been done in half the time.
I don't miss having to deal with them or CLV at all.
I fled to central Idaho in August of 05.
Still the same planet, but a whole different world.
That layout is some kind of ugliness in more way than one that I think some people here have summarized well. I think the trend to add multiple cut roofs to look 'upscale' is about reaching its apex as well. I see that around here a lot.
I think the trend to add multiple cut roofs to look 'upscale' is about reaching its apex as well
It might be pertinent to point out that many of the cut-up roofs are the result of the smarter-than-the-drafter cad systems out there. A bunch of the tract builders buy these plans that have only been designed ing two dimensions--zero thought to the roofs, gables, eaves, etc. at all. Which is why, so often, there's no rhyme or reason to them at all. Whether that trend is increaseing or decreasing I can't tell at all.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I wonder who comes up with these names, the cassidy, The monark, The Grand whatever, I mean is that a job someone has??
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could that be a "clerestory " window for a vaulted ceiling
Well it could be.But that would make for an very fancy garage..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Imagine those poor masons, piling rock upon rock and then having to stop there on the side for whatever that is. :)Reminds me of the 50's cape I saw driving home today, with a stone veneer plastered on the front -- only the front, right up to the vinyl corners on each side. Gawd.And if I had a dollar for every subdivision with the words Brook, Creek, Stone, Willow or Run in their names I'd be a friggin' millionaire.
girlbuilder,
You left "Heights" off your list ;-)
"Poor is not the person who has too little, but the person who craves more."...Seneca
Yes, I did and amusingly, 'Heights' always conjures up in my mind a development on poor cheap land (like river bottom land), or a poor town on the outskirts of a wealthier town, or even more often a set of housing projects. The effect of hearing that word ascribed to housing has no me the opposite effect of the namer's intention.
And you left off manor;o)
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When I was growing up (45 years ago?) my friends and I affectionately referred to our neighborhood as "Sunken Heights".
And I truly regret that builders didn't get the message way back then.
Support our Troops. Bring them home. Now. And pray that at least some of the buildings in the green zone have flat roofs, with a stairway.
Just up the road from me is a ten acre site covered in alders that the developer put four houses on and inexplicably named "Redwood Shire"
I keep looking for the Hobbits, but they must be hard to spot.
fingersandtoes,
The hobbits were always smart enough to avoid living in mordor....
"Poor is not the person who has too little, but the person who craves more."...Seneca
and inexplicably named "Redwood Shire"
I keep looking for the Hobbits, but they must be hard to spot.
Hobbits might make sense--a shire is a feudal form of "county" which is just above being esquired and below knighthood.
Alder, redwood, that's them fish cookin' woods, all the same ain't they ? <g>
Can't be any worse than the flat patch of mesquite still claiming to be the future "Sierra Oaks" . . . (can't imagine why no one sprang on those "afforadble" 1-2 acre lots "from the 20s" (about 30 miles from anywhere) . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
You described my house to a tee!! How about the stone veneer on the front right up to the harvest gold aluminum siding?
I have resisted the suggestions to change to vinyl (yay for me) but I didn't know my stone veneer was ugly too! I thought that was the best part! Would you suggest a more realistic stone? Or maybe just wood lap siding?
The outside will be done as a last step in a major overhaul, this is why I am asking. I really thought the stone was okay, now I don't know. I do not mean to say I took offense because I am open to anything; just a little shocked that the stone was ugly to others.
I'm glad you said that.
AC, don't get offended or defensive about your stone veneer, I'm sure if you did it carefully and the siding compliments and accents to stone it looks nice. Probably the worst I've seen is the stuff used in the seventies and eighties, that wasn't formed in place like the stuff now -- came in big sheets. That's the stuff that looks bad, especially after 20 years or so.
if I had a dollar for every subdivision with the words Brook, Creek, Stone, Willow or Run in their names I'd be a friggin' millionaire
LoL!
Remember the rule-of-thumb that such places are named for their lack; so "brook heights" would be arid flat land <g> . . .
So, imagine what I thought when I saw the sign for "Serene Woodhollow" . . . <g>Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
I don't know which is worse, the 'named' developments, or roads from 150 - 200 years ago, named after their function. When I was scouting land for some buyers, I found such places as "Stingy River Road" of course, right on "Stingy River" or the obiquitous "Poor Farm Road of which there are at least two or three that I know of in old towns around this area. Every town has a 'ledge road' a 'rocky road' 'meeting house hill road' meeting house road' or 'church road'.If we put that standard to today I imagine we'd have, "Convenience Store Road", "Saturday Shopping Boulevard", "Pothole Drive" and possibly "Speed Trap Street"
named after their function
The names will make a person wonder sometimes, out in rural Texas, too.
"Sane Family Farm," "Frame Switch," "Mud Pool Creek Road," and my quintessential fave: "Mad Woman Creek."Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
"and my quintessential fave: "Mad Woman Creek."Now I know what I'll name my estate -- if I ever have one.
My favorite of all time in Naperville IL:Honest Pleasure Drive<G>Redbud almost ready to burst into bloom, SW of Chicago!!
Now that is an evokative name.
So is an 'honest pleasure' one in which no one has to lie upon going home?Yes, its crude, but it just came to my mind.
I know what I'll name my estate
LoL! There's a sign for that watershed out on the way to San Antonio, I may have to keep an eye out for it. That, or's it over toward Comfort and Welfare--which have to be happier highway exits than the one to Perdition.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
"Comfort and Welfare--which have to be happier highway exits than the one to Perdition."Been there done that. When I married long ago I thought I was in for love and comfort, but once I settled with the fact that the ex was a lazy deadbeat, I had to get rid of him and ended up on a stint on welfare when he wouldn't pay child support.Right now, running my own business in this business (remodeling) half the time I feel like I'm standing on the road to perdition already.
ago I thought I was in for love and comfort, but
Well, veritas was not my aim quite so much as the potential for alliterative humor.
Comfort is south of I-10 West of San Antonio; Welfare is north, more over towards Fredricksburg. Both have signs along I-10, "Comfort Next Right" is one I remember.
Perdition, TX is along the Pecos, IIRC, somewhere (probably near one of the Liberties, we have either 5 or 6 in the state).
Spent the night in Comfort (if needful of a softer ground pad for the tent) the once. Helped document the August Faltin Building there, too.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
my guess is that this is the first "Cassidy", and they turned the garage into the sales model, so you have the door and window there with the awning. so then is the high peak beyond the gambrel break the second floor of the townhome unit next door? i figure the garage door you see is for the unit next door. and then does that mean you're living in a one story home with your neighbors stomping around above you? how cozy.
what the wart (dormer) is doing on the roof.
Because it was uglier without the wart than with, maybe ?
"what the wart (dormer) is doing on the roof.Because it was uglier without the wart than with, maybe ?"At least they could have centered it, or put in two..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
At least they could have centered it, or put in two.
But, but, that's not what was on the CO . . .
(And this CO was "against" the model house, so changes came out of the super's & PM's bonused, and which will be listed as for sale at 70-80% for being "used" and for maybe the tax assessment is cheper thereby . . . )Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)