any one had much experiance using “venetian plaster” i just did the walls in a room where they had been repaired aafter replacing some skylights and drywall
The walls have wallpaper on them and this stuff allows you to go right over the paper with out removing it
It has the cosistancy of margerine and is trowelled on like dw mud,2 coats ,then sanded 400 grit which gives you a marble like effect as the colouring is already mixed in
Its made by Behr from HD , sure does save a lot of work stripping ,mudding and painting 3 coats of paint
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Do the directions explicitly say it can go over paper? That sounds suspect to me.
Other than that, I had fun using a similar product a while back. Turned out great.
no it dosent but the few blisters i got tightened up with in a couple of hours and were gone with the second coat
any loose joints i worked some under neath the trowled over , sure saved a lot of time compared to the usual methods
The stuff I have seen requires a very smooth wall to start with. It's not designed for levelling the wall, and it's only a skim coat itself.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
you are right in thats what the can asks for but it worked fine for me and the wall has textured wall paper on it
I have tried doing this with mud and found it always blistered the wall paper until you had a lot of coats on , then you needed to paint the whole thing
this stuff dries fairly quickly which might explain the difference
1 coat to start , 2nd coat 4 hours later, sand 24 hrs later
Dude,
I just completed two bedrooms that had paint on the walls and used the Behr product as well. My technique definitely improved as time went on. The second room looks a little more consistent than the first. These two bedrooms were about 13'6" x 14' and took about 8 - 10 hours each for prep, two coats, and burnishing, but the effort was well worth it.
Five lessons I learned that I'll pass along for anyone else thinking about do this;
1) knock the nibs / high spots off the wall using the open drywall sandpaper before putting the plaster on or you'll have white spots (or whatever color the paint was) when you burnish it.
2) Make sure HD puts the plaster through 2 mix cycles or the color may not be evenly mixed.
3) When plastering the inside corner, use the knife to spread the plaster on both sides as best you can, let it dry, then put some on your finger and run down the corner to fill in any areas not covered with the knife. Worked like a charm.
4) At least one of the colors I tried was no where close to the color card. Don't recall which one, it was a light yellowish color that came our very light yellow. Although HD says they will not take back custom colors, they will take it back if it doesn't match the color card at all.
5) If you like the effect, but don't want to commit 8-10 hours, do a bathroom instead.
Terry
I started with a room 24' long X 22' wide plus a walk in closet, 3 skylights and a knee in the 2 end walls 6' from the floor.
once you get the hang of the stuff it goes not too bad, even with the room full of furniture
Check this web site. They do 6-8 different kinds of wall finishes, and the products are excellent.
http://www.teifsfinehomefinishes.com
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
sounds like a great store seeing aas im just around the corner then straight north about 2000 miles LOL
Edited 1/26/2006 7:44 pm ET by dude
Ya know, even here in Texas we have mail-order stores ...
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
I was thinking more of the classes they show on their site
Thanks so much for this thread! I've been looking at this stuff for the really interesting walls in my 300-year old house, & you have just convinced me!
I have wallpaper, old sand paint, sheetrock, bad pateches (of course, not done by me!), & good patches. A somewhat textured look is appropriate, but not as textured as it presently is!
I've been thinking D-mix & then venetian plaster...
This is the modern venetian plaster you are talking about. Very exciting product and easy to learn.
Do you find the wallpaper seams showing at all? I have always applied the product over a very smooth surface.
BTW, you'll get better result applying a very thin third coat and burnish instead of sanding with 400 grit. You'll get more of a depth to the finish. Also you can experiment with coats in a slightly different tone and you'll be amazed of the result.
I reapplied to any areas that a seam still showed , admittedly there is a bit of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder factor here ,throwen in with a learning curve) LOL.
Agree on the burnishing. I was tol;d to sand the first coat with 400 or 600 dry, then burnish the second coat. Of course that was applied over a smooth surface where defect filling was not an issue.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Sounds very interesting. How 'bout some pics.
being a one finger typist on dial up and practically computer illiterate that would be a real challenge
and the digital i bought came with 200 pages of instruction ( i think its easier building a house with no plans which i have done in the past 5500 sq ft.)
You have to see the real thing, can't capture it in a picture.
Thanks for the pic.