What are you paying for electricity?
17.5 cents / KWH here in Houston! Just spoke with a person in Arkansas that’s paying 6 cents. That’s almost 1/3 the cost of what I’m paying here! At my place in OK, it’s 7 cents.
If everyone that reads this can tell me what they pay and where they live (city/state) I’ll post it on Google Earth and occasionally save the GE file to my web space.
To make it simple, just divide your total monthly cost by the total KW’s used that month.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mike_in_katy/PlaneWood/ElectricCosts.kml
If you have Google Earth, then just copy & paste this file to it.
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)
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A little over 6 cents in Lexington, KY.
"Let's go to Memphis in the meantime, baby" - John Hiatt.
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4.37 cents in Richmond KY. It is a Co-op.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
" If ya plan to face tomorrow, do it soon"
In Hawaii we are at $.21 per kilowatt hr.
$.096 - northcentral Indiana - a Co-op that has made some bad business decisions -
.133 to .149 in north Texas. My last rate was .09 ouch........
Pete
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RBean
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$0.145
Richardson, TX (Dallas area)
Edit - Just south of Pete in Plano
Edited 10/10/2006 7:59 pm by ToolFreakBlue
TFB,
I grew up in Richardson, next to Terrace Elementry. You know where that is?
Sure do. We lived on Royal Crest until I was a wopping 1 1/2 years old. Folks moved to the west side in '68 and still live in the house they built then. My SIL takes the kids over to the Terrace pool on the day our neighborhood pool is closed. TFB (Bill)
From 1966 until 1989, I lived one street over on Rorary. Graduated from Berkner in 1984.
Small world.
RHS '84 here. My son will go to JJPearce. DW went to Lake Highlands '86. :0
I worked with a guy at the hardware store by Sun Drug that lived on Rorary. Few years behind us and I can't remember his name to save my life.
TFB (Bill)
My base rate here in Minneapolis last month was 8.3 cents/kwh, but if you include taxes and all the rate adjustments for fuel costs and such, it was 12.5 cents/kwh.
Just over 6¢ in BC, Canada. I hear it's going up though...
Scott.
Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”
About a dime, with all taxes and fees.
Uncle Dunc
Boulder, CO
Like Dunc, we're a hair below a dime. Our coop wouldn't ever admit it, claims far less. Until you add in the line charges and access fees. They restructured their billing awhile back, didn't raise the rate, but the cost went up 40%.
As you suggested: To make it simple, just divide your total monthly cost by the total KW's used that month.
Our last bill was $56, including my shop and well pump, so I guess we're doing OK.
PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
$.0937 in Dayton, OH.
Where I hail from, and own a house (rented out now), the electricity is $.028/kwh. It's run by the town, which buys from the public utility district. Everybody in town complains about the electricity rates, because people who live outside city limits buy directly from the PUD, at about $.024/kwh.
Big deal, my average summer bill was about $12. Winter, it would get up to about $50, with electric everything, heat, water, stove.
zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Zak -
Whre do you hail from?
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood
jeez. . . I can't believe I forgot to include that.
Central washington state, Cashmere to be exact. Hydropower capital of the country, I think.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Central washington state, Cashmere to be exact. Hydropower capital of the country, I think.
You got that right. just 1 or 2 generators in Grand Coullee is equal to the the entire power production at Hoover Dam.
My wife used to work at a poco in So. Cal. She said Grand Coulle was always viewed with some awe, as a mythical semi-infinite power source up in the NW, that could be called upon in times of high demand. A big problem over the past several years has been limited transmission line capacity west of the Rockies, though.
My father and I visited Grand Coullee a few years ago - the tour/generating plant was closed to the public, so we didn't get the good lesson - they were spilling water that day, which is a little unusual in itself -
beyond the generation capacity, I believe the dam uses the power of falling water to pump water up into an ancient drainage system that then provides irragation water to central Washington -
the driving tour of Washington's 'Channeled Scablands' was fascinating -
"there's enough for everyone"
My son and I went to Bonneville Dam one Saturday a few months ago. If you can find the ranger, he'll give you a tour inside the generating plant. you get to walk right up to the generators with the big rotor turning underneath you; pretty cool. Although he claimed the Cheif Joseph Dam up in WA had the best, most techy tour (apparently you have to ground yourself in parts of it for safety reasons).
What you have to realize about grand coulee- it is the biggest, but it is one of many dams on the columbia in central washington. Grand Coulee was probably 80 miles from me, but in the drive there I would pass at least 3 or 4 other dams, all quite large.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Got the file updated. (see post #1)
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood
Current bill $61.98 for 674 KWH used = .092 per Kw. Need to go turn off some lights!
Douglas County Co. IREA is the service provider.
Another $30 to Excell for natural gas Fau & h2o heater.
$62.50 for the water company.
$45 for the TV.
$50 for the phone.
$12 for the inter-net (dial-up).
Stil a hole lot less then the $600 a month for the Health Insurance!
" Work to live!" Live to Work!"
FWIW, I was just reading in a back issue (before I tossed it) of the IEEE Spectrum that there is now an outfit that has a "low cost" wind turbine for residential use. Installs for about $10K (less than half the cost of more conventional units) and is estimated to provide power at about 9 cents per KWH.
Not sized to fully power a house (I forget the total KW), but enough to handle most of an average load (in reasonably windy areas), with peak handled from the grid.
.1723/KWH for residential and .185/KWH for comercial this is in Maine from Bangor Hydro which is owned by a Canadian outfit. My residential rates are .07345/KWH for distribution, .01176/KWH for transmission and .08712/KWH for electricity supply and I can shop around for a supplier for my electric supply BIG DEAL.
Texas 'deregulated' the electric companies a few years back. Said the rates would be cheaper. That was a big pile of crap and I'm sure some legislatures got some big bucks in their pocket for voting for it.
We now seem to be higher than most of the rest of the country. My electric bill runs close to $500 in the summer with 2 AC's and with a wife that has hot flashes. 4 AC's actually, if you count the shop and the apartment for my mom.
Channel 2 here in Houston ran a story a couple of months back and said that Houston was on par with the rest of the state. DUH! They didn't even look at surrounding states. I had earlier sent an email to the Channel 2 news anchor who I knew through my Planewood business.
PlaneWood by Mike_in_Katy (maker of fine sawdust!)PlaneWood
Greetings All,16.6 cents per kwh here in Western CT. CL&P is our provider. We put in a new oil heat furnace for our forced air system a year ago. Even with the high oil prices, things are better. It does make you keep after the kids to turn off the lights. I sound like my dad.John
And if you think the prices you pay for electricity are high, keep in mind that the federal agency (EIA?) that predicts energy prices continues to insist that we're all going to pay $0.08/kWh until 2030. By itself, that wouldn't be so bad, except that all energy efficiency standards have to be based on an economic payback, so mistakes in the electricity price lead to incorrect standards.It would be interesting if someone out there has a population-adjusted actual price that consumers are paying today for electricity. With 50MM consumers in CA, and millions more in other coastal areas that are paying $0.20/kWh, I imagine that the population-weighted average is probably in the 14-15 cents/kWh range. Me, I pay almost $0.21/kWh, Boston.
Here in NW CT, monthly average is .20 KWH, including all elements. Used to be .15 until upped on 1/1/06!!
$0.081/KWH here in Clemmons, NC
Duke Energy
Down here on the Mexico border (Deming, NM) we're paying .084/kwh. All of it comes from coal fired plants north of us.
The house I live in, pay around .07/kw. The project house (about 5 miles away) pay .14-.16, although it is hard to get the true cost because the villiage lumps water, sewage, leaf bags (which I've never gotten), and some other stuff on the same bill.
jt8
"All the knowledge I possess everyone else can acquire, but my heart is all my own." -- Goethe
You need to include the month also, or at least the season. A/C areas typically have higher rates in the summer.
I would think the simplest approach would be to take the total number of KWH billed to consumers in a year (trying to eliminate industrial/commercial users, if the desire is to estimate residential costs) and divide that into their total bill for the year. These numbers should be reasonably well available in the docs filed with the government.
[Note I was replying mostly to the topic raised by Constantin.]
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
Edited 10/12/2006 11:31 am by DanH
It depends on what you are tyring to do with the information.If it is for something like deciding on the type of heat then you can't use total numbers.He is my latest bill.Customer charge (fixed) $7.89Base rate 8.23 c/kwh for first 600
Then for the 4 sumer month additional is 8.47BUT in the winter there is a two step REDUCTION. Prices have gone up since I had the last one, but I am guess about 3.6 3.6 is what I would be paying for any electric heat or heat pump.
.115 per KW, in NW WA where we're mostly hydro. There's a 'basic charge' of $23.50 to get the bill started, then the per-KW charges at .07 per. We're paying a surcharge to participate in the green power program, which brings us a portion of our electricity from wind farms in eastern WA.
Yeah, I'm paying the surcharge too, though I have mixed emotions about it -- basically paying the utility to do what they're require by law (at least in our state) to do anyway.
If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
I'm not sure what the regs are here. If you believe the blurb they send with your bill, the amount of 'green' power they buy is directly correlated to the number of people paying the surcharge. We're buying from a coop so I have some reason to believe they're being straight about it. I know that there are a lot of wind farms being developed on the east side of the Cascades so there must be demand for more.
What do I pay? I have a meeting with the Loan Officer at my bank tomorrow. I'll ask him!!! Chuck
8.5c/kwh in Durand, IL
Well, there's a whole range of rates just 90 miles north of you.
Lowest was 0.123, average seemed to be 0.138 to 0.144, with a high of 0.16 on TXU.
If you go to the Texas Public Utilities Commission (http://www.puc.state.tx.us/), the "Electric Choice" button sends you over to powertochoose site, which will let you put in zip codes and then show such choices as are available for that zip.