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What’s with your screen name anyway?

GoldenWreckedAngle | Posted in General Discussion on April 3, 2003 07:21am

A couple of people have asked me about mine and I’ve been curious about several others. So how about it- What is the story behind your Breaktime Moniker?

I did a lot of in depth study on the “Golden Rectangle” proportioning system in my architectural studies. The premise of the proportions of the golden rectangle is that good architecture is measured against the “divine” proportions of nature. I started referring to disproportionate architecture that obviously didn’t conform to “divine” guidelines as being based on the “Golden Wrecked Angle.” When I was logging on it popped into my head as an apt description of me.

Kevin Halliburton

“One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man.” -Elbert Hubbard-

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  1. andybuildz | Apr 03, 2003 07:46pm | #1

    Andy Clifford? Well ask my Mom...Andybuildz? Duh

    Be "soon to be a major motion picture ; ) "

                                                  Namaste

                                                                   andy

     

    "Understanding yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth"

    Alan Watts


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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 03, 2003 08:11pm | #3

      He, he, he... Your's wasn't one of the ones I was scratching my head over Andy but thanks for sharing. Smart Alec!

      Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

      1. GrouchieGrum | Apr 03, 2003 08:38pm | #4

        Doubt it was me you were wondering about, but I will give my 2 cents...  I usually have a good cynical sense of humor... so I portend that I am a grouch, when most of the time everything that comes out of my mouth is meant to be funny... Kinda like Norm from On Golden Pond! I like being a stereotypical old grouch(poop), it makes me laugh inside... and my friends all realize that the nickname is just a joke, more than anything else...

        It does get my wife and I some odd statements from people though(wife uses my email, [email protected]).. she ordered some items from a mom & pop online store. There was issues with the shipment(i.e.- items were broken in transit), and they immediately took issue with us... we couldnt figure out why they were being a bit rude in their correspondance with us... so we called them, and the guy was a bit harsh with me at first, but then he realized I wasnt being an arse back... come to find out, he thought our email address was indicative of the type of people we were... WRONG!!!  now the mom and pop are like old friends, we order from them all the time, and when occasionally we do have other problems, they are extremely cordial and friendly with us.... guess it was a learning experience for both of us... but we still have the same old E-mail address, so we dont learn to well.. hehehe

        1. WorkshopJon | Apr 03, 2003 09:12pm | #5

          Screen name? Future sister-in-law worked for an industrial supply house and would always send me many. many free samples of "stuff" she thought might come in handy (all under different company alias's. The most popular was Jon's Workshop. Just flipped it around. By the way, could anybody use a lifetime supply of safety glasses? They don't match, but could start a museum with as many as I have. The UPS guy came by every day for two weeks straight just delivering those!

          Jon

  2. MrPita2 | Apr 03, 2003 07:51pm | #2

    Because most of my family and close friends know me as, surprise, a PITA.  Though they say they mean it in a good way. Sure.  There actually is a story how I got it, but I've already told it several times here.

    The "Mr." is because I was signing up for my first email address, and Pita was taken.  Offended, I kinda said "That's Mr. Pita to you!"

    If everything seems to be going well, you've obviously overlooked something.

  3. CAGIV | Apr 03, 2003 09:20pm | #6

    Mines simply my intials.

    View ImageGo Jayhawks
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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 03, 2003 09:28pm | #7

      Now yours was one that had me wondering. I kind of figured it was your initials but I was thinking I'd seen you sign off with "Neil" before. Whatupwidat?

      When I concluded it wasn't your initials that left it wide open for interpretation- I came up with all kinds of thing to fit your acronym.

      If you'd like, I'll share...

      :-)>Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

      1. CAGIV | Apr 03, 2003 09:34pm | #8

        Please share, and don't hold back on the "good ones"  I promise not to be offened or jump on you like pussycat :)

        As for my name. Cornelius Aloysius Gaskin IV

        Neil is short of Cornelius.View ImageGo Jayhawks

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          GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 03, 2003 10:17pm | #10

          A southern expression- "What are you smiling at with that big old Coon --- Grin?"

          Cool As a Gherkin- from all that vinegar in ya. Come to think of it, kind of fits with your real name too

          Chicken Attacking Gawkily- Love that logo (yea, I know it's not a chicken but it reminds me of Foghorn Leghorn)

          Cussin' A Geezer- one of your many talents

          ... that's the first few I remember off the top of my head. Pretty much goes down hill from there. I'm sure a few others will take the opportunity to contribute. Just remember, you asked for it.

          :-)>

          Kevin Halliburton

          "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

          1. CAGIV | Apr 03, 2003 10:23pm | #11

            Yes I did ask for it and anyone can feel free to join in, making me smile today,

            You say it goes down from there,  well don't hold back on me now lol

            As for Cussin' A Geezer- one of your many talents

             Its one of my favorites and most practiced :)View ImageGo Jayhawks

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            GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 12:54am | #18

            I can't remember too many of the others- They just kind of popped into my head as I was reading some of your posts then I promptly forgot them... I need a new hobby.

            From your recent bout with an older poster calling you "son" and "arrogant":

            Conceited Arrogant Gosling (baby goose- the logo thing again)

            Capricious Airheaded Gradeschooler

            How bout a few more flattering ones that reflect my personal opinion of ya:

            College Age Guru

            Cogent And Gregarious

            Challenger of Antagonistic Goats

            Chivalrous Adroit Gladiator

            Kevin Halliburton

            "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

          3. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 01:18am | #22

            Capricious Airheaded Gradeschooler

            I like that one lmao

            View ImageGo Jayhawks

          4. RW | Apr 04, 2003 01:34am | #29

            Chivalrous And Gentlemanly

            Waaaaaa haaa haa haaaahaahaaa

            *sob*

            gawd I kill me

            " Blessed are the forgetful: for they get the better even of their blunders" - Nietzsche

          5. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 01:36am | #31

            Chivalrous And Gentlemanly

            at times :)View ImageGo Jayhawks

          6. Snort | Apr 04, 2003 02:12am | #33

            Yeah, I've always wondered what's up with those crazy , obviously made up screen names<G> EliphIno!

        2. andybuildz | Apr 03, 2003 11:57pm | #14

          Cornelius.....I like that way more than Neil...Aloysius is even better.....yep...thats what I'd go with if I were you...then again you'd probably call your self Al....although The Iv would be very cool...you could call yourself IVY or 4 for short......

          By chance, youre not related to Stephen Gaskin are you?

          http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/akbp2.html 

          Stephen GaskinIna May Gaskin ....I spent a lot of time on The Farm with them many years ago.

          BE named da fourth

                                  NAmaste

                                                andy

           

          "Understanding yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth"

          Alan Watts

          http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

          Edited 4/3/2003 5:02:32 PM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)

          1. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 01:27am | #27

            Andy,

              Not to my knowlege anyway,  Great Grandfather and his side of the family are all from chicago, fresh off the boat 4 generations ago from Ireland.View ImageGo Jayhawks

          2. DavidxDoud | Apr 04, 2003 03:58am | #40

            Andy - I visited the Farm - had a friend that lived there - Daryl Jordan - he went to Guat and later to Africa - - I was already doin' the farmin'  thang (still am)- an interesting era - small world - DOUD

          3. andybuildz | Apr 04, 2003 09:49am | #53

            David

                   I also spent many months on The Farm when Stephen was in his fight about trying to leagally grow hemp. It was quite a party then. If I remember right he had two wives then but I think he calmed down a bit and settled in with Ina.

            The farm is quite a place. They even owned a tanker and delivered food all over the world to people in need.

            Now thats a guy thats about real action!

            Be an activist

                          Namaste

                                      andy 

            "Understanding yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth"

            Alan Watts

            http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

          4. thewoodSmith | Apr 12, 2003 06:23am | #127

            Hey andy- I know this is responding to something that's several days old but I'm not a daily "user". For one thing wading through all the right wing crap is depressing. I read alot of the postings but only occaisionally throw in my own thoughts. I must say I have always enjoyed reading your opinions. I buzzed through the farm many years ago and spent lots of time around rainbow family folk. Lived for 15 years in a cooperative community in Wa. state. Many tales to tell, lots of valuable lessons on social interactions. How do you put up with what seems to be the predominate hateful rhetoric of ou r fellow Americans? It exasperates the hell outta me.

          5. andybuildz | Apr 12, 2003 03:26pm | #129

            lorenzo

                    Hate comes in all forms from outside the country but also inside the country. Whites hating blacks, neighbors hatin' each other. I ddont think there is an exclusive on it.

            It can be contagious.

            Be aware        

                      Namaste

                                   andy 

             

            In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''

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          CapnMac | Apr 04, 2003 12:30am | #15

          Now, that is a moniker to own.  Even more so for being the fourth owner.

          Know a local carpenter who is Jay Dee, but due to his military service goes by "DJ" (which has confused many).

          "CAG" caught my eye, too, as an abbreviation--my brain translates as "Commander, Air Group" or "Computer Animated Graphics."  I like the "geezers" version, though (even if I am right close to that group . . . )

        4. Piffin | Apr 04, 2003 01:17am | #21

          I don't suppose you;ve ever been called corny?

          My initials are pfn, thus the phonetic, Piffin.

          Excellence is its own reward!

          1. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 01:24am | #25

            Piffin, I spent many a day outside the principal's office for people calling me such things far worse then that.

            Kids can be cruel.

            Didn't take sh!t from idiots then, and won't now.

            I try to reason with those who can be reasoned with, others see my nasty side :)

            I won't say I was always happy with my name until My dad sat me down explained why it was "cool" to have my name and be the 4th.  This happened shortly after a playground shoving match happened and I came home upset.  After that I gained a lot of respect for the fact that I am a forth generation Cornelius A. ...    The name means a lot to me now, It has family history to it and I can appreciate that.

            View ImageGo Jayhawks

          2. FastEddie1 | Apr 04, 2003 04:22am | #43

            Is there a #V ?  My grandfather had the same name as 6 or 8 generations before him, but he had only girls so the trail stopped.  I got his/their first and middle names, but not the last.  Alas, I had only girls.

            My alias relates to school: The Citadel class of 72.Do it right, or do it twice.

          3. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 05:05am | #44

            No # V yet, until I have my first son.View ImageGo Jayhawks

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            RichBeckman | Apr 04, 2003 05:15am | #45

            As I've explained in the last thread on this subject. My name is John R. Svenson. I wanted to post with my initials, but JRS was already taken, so I use Rich Beckman.

            Rich Beckman

            Another day, another tool.

          5. jimblodgett | Apr 04, 2003 05:44am | #46

            hehehehehehe, thanks for the chuckle, John.

            First I was "young bob", Robert Cray's protagonist on his grammy winning album from the early 80's.

            Then I was jim "crazy legs" blodgett when the missus and I decided to start bicycling after dinner one year (that didn't last long, believe me).

            Then, for a short time I was jim "I'm not from Texas" blodgett - this was during the Canadian/Texan border wars.  I did it to needle the Texans, but they got riled, so I changed back to the crazy legs thing, then finally dropped that when we got Prosperoed.

            Now that Jim Blodgett writes for the magazine I am thinking about going back to my real name - John Swenson.  It's just too confusing trying to answer questions about things I have no knowledge of.

          6. don26299 | Apr 04, 2003 05:55am | #47

            Fonzie comes from a teenage desire to be cool which never happened. But that's cool.

            Wrecked angle, I did some things with the "golden section" for a while in the 70's. I would keep a calculator handy and tap in 1.618 or a harmonic to make a decision on this or that. There seemed to be something to it, I just lost interest.

            You were talking about boats earlier in the thread. My partner & I got to put a teak deck in a boat last fall. I am as unnautical as they come but that was interesting.

            Don Mathis

            Macomb, Ill

          7. Saw | Apr 04, 2003 06:20am | #48

            Just my initials and my age when I signed in at Delphi, it also transversed from another board.

            Fonzie, you're just 15 miles away.

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            GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 09:13pm | #71

            Hmmm... I thought it was a question. The answer is no- not yet.Kevin Halliburton

            "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

          9. don26299 | Apr 12, 2003 10:28pm | #130

            >>Fonzie, you're just 15 miles away

            That means in 15 minutes we could have coffee! The only name I can think of is Roy Underhill, but he doesn't look 41.

          10. Saw | Apr 13, 2003 05:15am | #131

            No, I'm not Roy. I'm over here in Spartan country. We don't do much in Macomb, some work at Heager Pottery, Everly House. We tend to get most of our work to the east and south or here in town.

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            BillHartmann | Apr 04, 2003 06:40pm | #63

            Actually my name is Grace L Ferguson.

            I used to be in the storm door business. But there was a bunch of bad publicity about one of my subsidary companies so I had to change my name.

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            GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 06:55pm | #65

            Oh man! Now that was a well written clue- That Bob Newhart was quite the comedian wasn't he? I take it your a fan Mr. "Hart"mann...

            Did I get it? Did I get it? Did I get it?Kevin Halliburton

            "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

          13. DustynLefty | Apr 04, 2003 07:13pm | #66

            Well, there are those two Garrison Keillor characters and my left-handedness and the sawdust in my hair and on my glasses and in my pockets at the end of the day and following along behind my footprints that my wife points out...so it seemed like the perfect screen name at the time.

            D&L

          14. fdampier5 | Apr 04, 2003 07:34pm | #67

            Mines simple.  nobody could pronounce my last name when I went into the service and the chief started calling me Frenchy

              It's simplier than explaining pronounciation to everyone so it took.  (actually I'm 99% german but who cares)

          15. SMXSteve | Apr 04, 2003 09:02pm | #69

            how dull can I be. I can't even think up a reason for it other then the obvious.

  4. jet | Apr 03, 2003 09:52pm | #9

    I use to be Weekend warrior but it was suggested that I change it because too many newbies use it. So I inquired about using Big jet doctor as to my profession.  Then Newf decided that JET would be shorter, as to my height.

    So then the search was on to define JET.

    Just enough talent   was the result.

    If at first you don't succeed...try again! After that quit! No sense being a dam fool about it!       W.C.Fields

  5. ken1putt | Apr 03, 2003 10:29pm | #12

    I mostly lurk on Breaktime, but have been reading the magazine for a number of years, through a couple of major DIY remodeling projects.

    I was already registered at Delphi when Taunton made the move, and my screen name is from another forum, Golf Equipment Aficionados.  I use it, because I do it.  One-Putt.

    If I couldn't chip and putt, I couldn't break 90. But I can chip and putt--and as a result, I can break 80... Sometimes.

    BTW -- I hang around here a lot because y'all talk about stuff that interests me, and some of the regulars actually know what they are talking about. Three or four even have a gift for expressing themselves that tickles my writer's fancy.

    Ken-One-Putt

    -

    -

    "Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be indistinguishable from -- self righteous sixteen-year-olds posessing infinite amounts of free time." - Neil Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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    CapnMac | Apr 03, 2003 11:35pm | #13

    Mine's all purpose (not just here).

    My grandfather was "Mr. Mac," so I grew up as a "mac."  Later in life, I'm 24 and an Ensign.  I'm the youngest around, so I can't be the "old man."  Around Marines, their CO is the "skipper."  I'm in charge of more than one boat, and some smart alec starts calling me commodore--except that is the title for commanding more than one ship (hey--the distinction is important, it's a Navy thing).  The Senior Chief is tired of the guff, and pronounces that "The officer in command is called 'Captain' regardless of rank."  Now that the subject was Closed, it was chiseled in stone, I was Cap'n Mac from then on.  I've been (and been called) other things, but they don't make very good screen names . . .

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    NannyGee | Apr 04, 2003 12:47am | #16

    Mine comes from a favorite episode on the show "CHEERS". NannyG was taken, I guess, so it became NannyGee.

    I enjoy the gender confusion that results. I'm also now a stay at home parent, so it fits a little that way even though I adopted the name before the change of profession.

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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 01:00am | #19

      Have to admit- The gender thing did come up with me as I was reading one of your posts a while back. Started wondering if you were the Misses Doubtfire type. :-)>

      I feel so much better having that cleared up. Envy and admire you both for your current choice in profession by the way.Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

  8. luvmuskoka | Apr 04, 2003 12:54am | #17

    Ditchburns were the most beautiful and graceful wooden launches ever built. We had one in Muskoka Ontario when I was a kid in the 60s. Can't find a restored one today for less than 100k.

    Ditch

    1. DaveHeinlein | Apr 04, 2003 01:28am | #28

      No offense Luv, but when I first saw your name, (and for some reason I got the impression you might be of the biker persuasion), my first thought was that yours was an STD type thing. I get a kick out of it every time I see it.

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        aimless | Apr 04, 2003 08:55pm | #68

        re luvditchburns:

        "when I first saw your name, ... my first thought was that yours was an STD type thing."

        You and me both. I thought - why would s/he want to share that info with the world? Then I figured it must have some other meaning and I'm glad to know what it is, the alternative sounded really painful.

        My screen name has been a nickname since grade school and describes me. I've always been one of those people that drifts through life and lets it happen without any real kind of direction. Later, when I started programming targeting systems for marketing it took on another meaning.

        Thanks to all of you for letting me lurk (with the occasional tavern post) - I learn so much from your posts.

        Still drifting...Amy

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          GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 09:11pm | #70

          Amy the Aimless- I like it!

          It sometimes seems like I've worked in just about every field out there at one time or another. I've never been "released" from employment but for years I bounced from one career to another trying to find something that grabbed me. Same with hobbies. I think I finally hit a career that, after 9 years plus, seems to be sticking.

          Glad to know you- hope you drift in a little more often.

          Kevin Halliburton

          "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

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      CapnMac | Apr 04, 2003 09:33pm | #72

      Probably would have been similar if you were a fan of the "C" and "M" class Lake racing scows.  I've seen some real beauties.  Gorgeous mahogany frames that looked more like airplane wings than nautical scantlings.  Beautiful on the water, too--if challenging to sail.  The "M" class has twin rudders behind canted bilge boards.  Sloop-rigged and carrying spinnakers and poles, all in 16 feet.  The "C" class is 21 feet, an a singe, cat-rigged sail.  Surfboard profiled, and designed to either plane or go on 'the heel.'  And, with running backstays, to keep you on your toes.

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        Mongo | Apr 04, 2003 11:13pm | #73

        I have an M-16 that I race when we go back to Wisco for the summer. I love to sail, unfortunately, I don't get to do it nearly enough.

        Re" "Mongo"

        I was in USAF pilot training in Texas. There was a local charity rodeo in town and the commander of the traning squadron decided that we'd enter a team.

        I used to raise quarter horses when I was a kid, so my name was plugged in on the team.

        I came out of the chute, came down on the calf, the calf and I hit the ground...the calf took the worst of it. I walked away, the calf didn't.

        A few nights earlier a bunch of us had watched "Blazing Saddles." Karras took out the horse, I took out the cow...it's been "Mongo" ever since.

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          CloudHidden | Apr 05, 2003 01:37am | #74

          Domes are named, much like boats. At my elevation, we're often hidden from the city below by low-lying clouds. Alan Watts has a book by the name, 'Cloud Hidden', so...

          I don't like seeing my real name in print...kinda like looking in a mirror, which I do as seldom as possible. So I use the house name. But it's far from hiding behind an anonymous handle, because it's my business name and web site, too.

          1. rez | Apr 05, 2003 02:15am | #75

            Wish I could fugger out howta change ma handle to Roar!

             

             

          2. FrankB89 | Apr 05, 2003 03:44am | #76

            You do enough roaring that I think of that as your name anyway. 

            (Rez is more like the 1st 3 digits of a social security #,  or maybe like the approach of roiling thunderheads that hint of an impending thunderstorm). 

          3. Sancho | Apr 05, 2003 04:41am | #79

            Wish I could fugger out howta change ma handle to Roar!

            Come on Gunner fess up we know you and rez are the same person and your both really piffin......

            My real name is well Ron. I tried to come up with a good handle but couldnt. I even was going to leave it up to you folks but  Ron it is.....

            But dont ever call me Gunner.....cuz rez would get upset 

             

            Darkworks:  The French "Cheese eatin surrender monkies"..Grounds Keeper Willie

            Edited 4/4/2003 9:43:54 PM ET by RonT

  9. MajorWool | Apr 04, 2003 01:06am | #20

    Mine should have been Major Wood, but somehow Major Wool was typed in and only "wood" shows up on the screen.

    As some may have guessed, I also participate on a firearms mailing list. One of its members was a technical advisor on the movie "Deep Impact." We were discussing the movie while still in production, and it was mentioned that Tea Leoni was in it. Someone piped in, "Tea Leoni! We're talking Major Wood here!" I immediately adopted that as my screen name.

    1. Piffin | Apr 04, 2003 04:19am | #42

      Wood, You can go to your preferences and change your screen name without changing your login name.

      Excellence is its own reward!

  10. jackstraw9 | Apr 04, 2003 01:22am | #23

    'Jack Straw' is one of my all time favorite Grateful Dead tunes, since the name of my firm is Grateful Woodworking the rest explains itself.

    1. dustmonkee | Apr 09, 2003 10:21pm | #97

      Yea, buddy - another dead-head!  Would that be from "Europe '72?

      Cumberland Blues is another fave on Europe

      regards

      1. jackstraw9 | Apr 11, 2003 02:05pm | #119

        Europe 72' has the best JS bar far still , although there are a few hot ones around. The practice sessions bootleg for that tour is another. Can't miss with Cumberland ,though I think I'm partial to  'You win Again' or 'Jack-a-Roe' (not europe I know). All time fave is hard to say, definately love Big RR Blues. Don't think I'll see any shows this summer(building a house right now) but caught 4 last tour. Great to see the boys in action again.

  11. woodroe | Apr 04, 2003 01:22am | #24

    I met a guy recently and when I told him I was a carpenter he replied "Oh, you're a wood tick" , and so I am woodtick. I was tired of using my name so I changed it here. I don't spend as much time here as some of you, but enjoy it as time allows.

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    NickNukeEm | Apr 04, 2003 01:25am | #26

    I'm NOT a proponent of nuclear annihilation, nor is my name Nick.  The name pays homage to my early career of 25 years operating/running nuclear power plants, from submarines to one of the largest commercial nukes in New England.  I also write (mysteries,) and since NickNuke'em was a character in a book, it seemed like the way to go. . . 

    1. andybuildz | Apr 04, 2003 09:51am | #54

      Hey Nick

           Ever read my nephew MAtt Pearls book......The Dante Club? Its a mystery 

      "Understanding yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth"

      Alan Watts

      http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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        NickNukeEm | Apr 04, 2003 12:51pm | #55

        Not familiar, but no surprise.  Lots of books get published, but usually there is little or no budget for advertising, book tours, etc.  The first print may be a limited run of just a few thousand copies.  My agent just call and said my book, Unusual Event, about a series of sabotage events at a nuke plant, may be published this year.  The publisher is a small house in Boston, and the advance would be minimal.  Typically, unless you get lucky, you're on your own for marketing.  Never even see the thing in your nearest Barnes and Noble.  To give you an idea of the length of time required for the unpublished author to get his first book in print, I finished this book in early 1998.  The editing process took almost 2 years (which is unusual, but my editor had some major personal issues occur,)  It took 9 months to finally locate an agent interested in the book, he found a publisher after about a year, and they have been sitting on the manuscript since last Oct.  But I'm just thrilled it may finally get printed, even if I don't see a dime, which I probably won't.

        Writing the book is the easy part, believe it or not, getting it published is nearly impossible.  Unless your name is Clancy, Stven King, or Grisham.

        Be, An Author.

        1. andybuildz | Apr 04, 2003 02:38pm | #56

          Lots of books do get published by not as many become one of The NY Times top ten best sellers listed as my nephew Matts did for three weeks.

          Be top ten

                      Namaste

                                   andy 

          "Understanding yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth"

          Alan Watts

          http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

          1. GregGibson | Apr 04, 2003 04:27pm | #57

            My screen name ?  Well, BOBCAT was taken .

            Greg.

          2. FrankB89 | Apr 04, 2003 04:31pm | #58

            ....and taken and taken and taken...ad nauseum... 

          3. MajorWool | Apr 04, 2003 06:48pm | #64

            Well, you could be "The Bobcat", as in the comic Bobcat Goldwaith, one of my all-time favorites.

            http://www.associatedentertainment.com/Comedians1/Bobcat-Goldwaith/bobcat-goldwaith.htm

          4. Sancho | Apr 05, 2003 04:37am | #78

             

            My screen name ?  Well, BOBCAT was taken .

            Greg.

            I just read this and laughed so loud my boy came in the room wanting to know what was so funny..I tried but I knew he couldnt understand but this has to be a BT classic 

            Darkworks:  The French "Cheese eatin surrender monkies"..Grounds Keeper Willie

  13. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 01:34am | #30

    Larry, Larry, Larry....

      You asked why I thought I can out wit you?  Here is a perfect example I call you a pussycat, and you come back with pussybird????

    It's not witty, and it shows a severe lack of originality?  Maybe this is why your little stair gig do-hickey never took off?   Did it lack originality to?  or was it just as useless to  true professionals as you are to this board?

    Any Larold, you have my Name, you know what city I live in, I'm listed in the book, feel free to stop by on your trip and we can see if we can't just settle this little spat man to man huh?

    Or are you the big chicken?

    Later

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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 02:11am | #32

      Chewing A Gobstopper

      Remember the Willy Wonka candy "The Everlasting Gobstopper?" You could chew on it forever- it would keep changing colors but never go away.

      You do seem to be enjoying it about as much as the kid in the movie though. I can just see that big old coon grin now. :-)>

      Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

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      JeffBuck | Apr 04, 2003 02:24am | #35

      Gotta love a good "call out"!

      As to the screen mane...can't tell ya...big time top secret stuff.

      Actually....CAG's good old fashion call out is the reason I post my real name. I've always wanted people to know who I am......ya don't like me...come and get me kinda thing.

      Also.....figure free advertising. That's why I usually have the hometown in the tag line....unless something more creative strikes my fancy for a while.

      Jeff

      Buck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

       Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

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        GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 02:37am | #36

        Yea, I kind of felt the same way. Putting my name on the bottom of the page makes me think a little more about what I'm going to post too... most of the time.

        Still, I felt like it was a good idea to come up with a screen name that said something about me too. A person's screen name is kind of their outfit in a virtual world. You can tell a lot about a person by the moniker they wear - if you understand what it means.

        Hence the thread... I've really enjoyed this one so far.Kevin Halliburton

        "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

        1. FrankB89 | Apr 04, 2003 03:21am | #37

          I do some traditional timber framing on occasion (whenever I can).  A few years ago I was building a pergola-like trellis across the front of a country home. The structure was nearly 60 feet long so splicing of some 6 X 8 X20' Port-Orford cedar timbers was necessary.

          I was using a pretty common scarf joint called a "bladed scarf with opposing wedges."  It's an attractive joint when well turned out and, on this project, my scarf joints would be right out there in front of God and everybody.

          The last one, I miscut!  It was getting late, and I wanted to get the entire beam placed by day's end.  POCedar is a nice material to work with and I was spending about 2 hours carefully cutting with a handsaw and chiseling each joint, the slick shaving those final thin layers off for perfect fits.

          So-o-o, being in a hurry (and aggravated to no end), I layed out my templates, made all the layout and recut the scarf with a chainsaw (and touched it up with chisel and slick) in 45 minutes. 

          The clients gardener, who had been watching me all day, and lending a hand on occasion, upon seeing the new joint wedge together perfectly, pumped his fist in the air and said "You the Notchman!"

          And I really do enjoy cutting and fitting notches.

          No big secret about my name:  Frank Babcock...General Contractor...North Bend, Oregon 

      2. stonefever | Apr 04, 2003 03:40am | #39

        Because I love fine stonework.  Such gets me all worked up and silly.  On the other hand, fake as well as poorly done work make me ill. 

        It may sound weird, but I believe such work has a personality and story to tell that transcends generations.  Especially the part that tells how much time went into it's development.

        It's been a hobby for almost 30 years. 

  14. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 02:20am | #34

    Bigbird, all joking aside what do you do for a living?

    You want to call a truce fine by me, you think you can keep it civil, fine by me.

    So in an attempt to try that, I will seriously inquire, why do you ask?

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  15. Danusan11 | Apr 04, 2003 03:34am | #38

    Last name is Danielson, when studying for Black Belt in karate sensei called me Danusan.  The 11 came from the fact that I orginally signed in as Danusan computer crapped out and when I went to get back into breaktime it said name was already taken.  Yea it was me but for life of me couldn't register so I added 11.

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    IMERC | Apr 04, 2003 04:19am | #41

    It started with an off hand comment from a Cargill plant super calling me a regular industrial mercenary. I had taken care of some equipment / production promblems he had, after I had done my thing, because a couple of other contractors were no shows and he was in a bind. Called me that when I handed him the bill. Might have had a touch of sarcasim in it. Got the check.

    Hence IMERC

    Real name is Marty

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    ProBozo | Apr 04, 2003 06:31am | #49

    ProBozo -- because I am forturnate enough to be able to do much of my work -- now about 25% -- free of charge.  I do things for community groups, camps, boys&girls club, handicapped, etc.  It's a take on pro bono.

    I used to be an AmatuerBozo, but that's another story.  ;P

    1. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 06:34am | #50

      And here I thought you were just a profesional clown :)View ImageGo Jayhawks

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        Luka | Apr 04, 2003 08:40am | #51

        You mean your initials don't men Candy A$$ Gurly ?

        he he he

        : )

        Quittin' Time

        1. CAGIV | Apr 04, 2003 08:45am | #52

          Boy I oughta come out there.... :)

          I'll show you candy as@!

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            IMERC | Apr 04, 2003 05:33pm | #59

            DO NOT FORGET TO TAKE A NUMBER.

            Have seat.

            And no line cutting!

          2. Philter | Apr 04, 2003 06:03pm | #60

            Taunton/Prospero nuked my first one, in a panic, I carefully chose NewPhilter.................and thought I'd (G) take a shot at being a Newf filter, but that's not really neccessary (G)....with Canuck Fever on the Wet Coast of Canuckistan,cheers,Phil.If it is to be.... 'twil be done by me.

  18. FramerJay | Apr 04, 2003 06:31pm | #61

    My boss gave me the nickname "Captain Strap" because I was always the one to climb up on the wall plates and nail the hurricane straps to the rafters for the first eight months I worked for him. Then he started calling me "Quiver Boy" when I showed up with a little backpack to carry all those straps.

    -The Master of (House)Wrap and Strap

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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 04, 2003 06:37pm | #62

      Sounds like your boss was quite the clever one there...

      I'd have gone with something more like Cap'n Packin' Strapn'Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

      1. FramerJay | Apr 05, 2003 04:26am | #77

        Huh? Cap'n Packin' Strap-ons? Oh wait a minute, I'm not on the "make your name a porn-star name" thread anymore. Geez, I'd better lay off the Bud tonight! LOL! And yes my boss is quite a goofy one to be so good at his trade.

  19. Texfan | Apr 05, 2003 04:49am | #80

    How's the sips house doing?..............BTW, besides being my name, it's what I'm looking to hand to a customer. Then collect da benjaminz.



    Edited 4/4/2003 9:59:50 PM ET by Bill

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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 07, 2003 03:17am | #81

      Thanks for asking about the house. We poured the slab this weekend. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow.

      I have a BIL named Bill that is very good at bill collecting. Good to know ya!Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

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        bobl | Apr 07, 2003 03:55pm | #82

        I got my name when I tried out for the Patriots as an end.  Kept bobbling the ball, so they started refering to me as bobble.  Since that didn't look right to me I shortened it to bobl.

        I hate to say this but my real name is John R. Svenson, but that is a running bit here so I never admitted it before.

        really confuses people since they think my first name is Robert.bobl          Volo Non Voleo      Joe's BT Forum cheat sheet

  20. user-22015 | Apr 07, 2003 09:59pm | #83

    Screen names;  At first I wasn't going to reply to this 'cause I've already stayed on-line too long today----must be because I'm dreading the leaky roof waiting for me......But since my LILACORN  didn't come out right when I registered,  ( it should   be  "Lil'Acorn" ) I am at risk of sounding like I have a "big screen" name,  such as the time Piffin responded to me as "well,  Lila, ..........."

    Anyway,  mine is from a story or poem that my mom is fond of quoting,  something about "from something so little as  an acorn, mighty oak trees grow".  ( I don't know the actual poem--does anyone?)  Well,  it's mostly along the lines of  having potential,  seeing the possibilities,  and also it's wood-related......

    Lil'Acorn

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      GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 08, 2003 05:04am | #84

      I'm not aware of a poem with those words in it but the phrase, "Great oaks from little acorns grow." is generally attributed to Chaucer (c.1343-1400)

      Lil' Acorn hu? Just what we need around here- another nut! :-)>Kevin Halliburton

      "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

      1. user-22015 | Apr 10, 2003 01:10am | #99

        It's better than asking Jeeves anyday,  to pose a question here!  

                 Regarding the 'acorn/mighty oaks' saying; thanks for the quotation attribute to Chaucer----kind of glad to hear that the quote is short & simple.   That's my preference.  As  Thoreau said:  "simplify, simplify."   (or, more completely: "our life is frittered away by detail.  Simplify,  simplify.")

        Someone stumbling upon this thread is going to think they took a wrong turn and landed at a writer's workshop on literature.................

        By the way, in the way of answering further the "what's with your......" I guess to go along with the Lil' Acorn I might have added that I've worked with wood since I was knee high. Went to John Muir elementary in Berkeley, Ca. and in kindergarten,  we  used coping saws to make animals on wheels.  Did my first remodel at around 8 yrs. old;  cut off the roof of our play house and added a 2nd story.  [never mind that the 1st story headroom was poorly impacted.]         Have tried various occupations,  but can't get away from wood.  Once when working at a 'real' job,  went home at lunch to lay another plank on a wooden canoe project; cut myself badly with very sharp chisel.  I am usually not prone to accidents or injuries--and realized then that this dilemma was telling me something........have accepted that carpentry,  woodworking, building in some form or another,  well,  that's me.Lil'Acorn

    2. Piffin | Apr 08, 2003 08:13am | #85

      As I sit here laughing my butt off, I have to ask, How is Mr. Corn, Lila?

      LOL

      Sorry for that misunderstanding. Lil Acorn.

      We both love oak trees.

      Excellence is its own reward!

      1. user-22015 | Apr 10, 2003 12:42am | #98

        Piffin--That's the best thing about this site:  the sense of humor overall.......could use a lot more of that!

        All is forgiven,   sorry my name 'Cornfounded' you!    Alas,  Mr. Corn's whereabouts unknown,  since he never existed!

        Lil'Acorn,  formerly mis-identified as Lila Corn..........

        Lil'Acorn

  21. WorkshopJon | Apr 09, 2003 01:51am | #86

    I knew a guy who used to joke that he worked with a guy named Cornelius Aloysius Flushbottom. Think that they're related?

    1. CAGIV | Apr 09, 2003 02:05am | #87

      Hunh?

       

       

      View ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year

      Edited 4/8/2003 7:06:01 PM ET by CAG

  22. CAGIV | Apr 09, 2003 02:06am | #88

    Was who a bigbird, you make no sence moron

    View ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year
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      IMERC | Apr 09, 2003 03:35am | #89

      SENSE or CENTS but not SENCE

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        GoldenWreckedAngle | Apr 09, 2003 03:39am | #90

        I think he was spelling it so Larry could read it.Kevin Halliburton

        "One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -Elbert Hubbard-

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          IMERC | Apr 09, 2003 03:45am | #91

           BELIEVE YOU ARE RIGHT....

          SORRY NIEL

          1. CAGIV | Apr 09, 2003 03:49am | #92

            Thanks for pointing out my lack of ability to spell lol

            But since we are on the topic, hows about you spell my name nEIl instead of niel :)View ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year

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            IMERC | Apr 09, 2003 03:57am | #93

            Oh tay!!!

  23. busta_duke | Apr 09, 2003 05:49am | #94

    My kids had a dog named Duke that was killed a few years back. My wife and I let them pick out a begal to replace him. My daughter wanted to name the new beagle Busta and my son wanted to name Duke after the other dog so he got the name Busta_Duke to please both kids and I've been using his name on the net from then on.

    I almost forgot I play golf a lot and I love penley golf shafts in my wood so that's where Penley Ho came from.

    busta :0)

    Edited 4/8/2003 10:50:48 PM ET by Penley Ho Busta Duke



    Edited 4/8/2003 10:51:05 PM ET by Penley Ho Busta Duke

    1. r_ignacki | Apr 13, 2003 07:20pm | #134

      You should change 'Dukes' name to   ** NUT **

  24. GUNN308 | Apr 09, 2003 08:11am | #95

    Favorite deer caliber after last name

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      IMERC | Apr 09, 2003 11:01am | #96

      WOW! 308... Heavy.

    2. Piffin | Apr 10, 2003 03:10am | #100

      308 - I shoot the same sizzler out of a Ruger 77.

      Excellence is its own reward!

      1. GUNN308 | Apr 10, 2003 05:50am | #101

        I use a Win. model 88 lever action bought it new when I was in

        high school. Use to use it alot then, across the bay from you in Surry, still plenty of deer there, but it too built up now for that big a rifle. Got a 77 in 22-250 great on varmints and coyotes.

        1. Piffin | Apr 10, 2003 05:56am | #102

          308 is a potent round for a lever action!

          No rifle hunting on this island due to pop density. Archery only. Big deeer problem..

          Excellence is its own reward!

          1. GUNN308 | Apr 10, 2003 06:07am | #104

            Know about your isle but my bow only gets used out my backdoor, quiet you know, still havent figured how to tape on light LOL. Swans island has got it worse than you maybe you could switch names.

          2. Piffin | Apr 10, 2003 06:37am | #109

            There was no major deer problem here until the state decided to enforce the game laws out here. They made a model of one guy when they finally caught him. That threw a scare into every body else who was meat hunting. The next year, major number of car/deer accidents and steady increase in gardeners complaints. I've hit three with cars since then..

            Excellence is its own reward!

          3. GUNN308 | Apr 10, 2003 06:48am | #110

            Ayuh and the tree huggin granolas still cry!!!!!!

          4. fullpint | Apr 10, 2003 07:17am | #111

            Fullpint-------------Last name is Stout, originally from the north of England,

            In pubs, you can order a Jill of Stout for a 1/2pint of Stout beer.When my daughter was born, called her Jill  nickname (1/2 pint )  So buddy says so you must be fullpint, the name sort of stuck.

            Cheers.

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        IMERC | Apr 10, 2003 06:01am | #103

        Deer .243 or a .270. Isn't a .308 a little on the destructive side?

        I use .270 on Elk. .300 or .338 on bear. 

        1. GUNN308 | Apr 10, 2003 06:09am | #105

          All accordin to placement

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            IMERC | Apr 10, 2003 06:19am | #106

            Using a .243 isn't placement????

          2. GUNN308 | Apr 10, 2003 06:34am | #108

            Back when it was legal I've dropped em with 22LR, but where I hunt 243 & 270 are a little to fast and UNCLE gave me an m-14 to play with none of those little 223s. Around here 30-06 is in the majority neva know when you might get attacked by a moose.

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            IMERC | Apr 10, 2003 07:38am | #113

            Still have my BAR left over from yester year.

            Never know when you might get attacked by a deranged Bobcat.

            Edited 4/10/2003 12:40:28 AM ET by IMERC

        2. Piffin | Apr 10, 2003 06:33am | #107

          Maybe so. It does cut a path.

          But if you consider how many undersized cartridges are used to wound deer without killing quickly and surely, overall, what is more destructive?

          It shoots pretty accurate and flat enough for distance work.

          I do more target work than hunting. I've only killed three. I've only fired three rounds afield. Two neck/head, one front shoulder. It saves on tracking time when they drop straight down.

          ;)

          I've been putting in for a moose permit for too many years now to count. I must be due for a permit. I'll tell you how it does on one of them someday..

          Excellence is its own reward!

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            IMERC | Apr 10, 2003 07:32am | #112

            Use to use an 06 - 180gr SBT. Getting the same results from the .243 - 145gr BT. Less meat torn up. Don't hunt deer so much any more. Stay on the Elk. Bad terrain conditions and I up the ante to .300 mag. Haven't any thing with the 06 or the .308, except for varmits, in a very long time.

            I hope you get your permit. Your hunt will be memories for memories. Avoid harvesting one in a marshy area. Just take it as BTDT. My first moose ('66) I used a .338. Three moose to date. Or is that mooses?

            Just wait till you hump that mother out. Bring lots of help or one sky crane.

            The .243 is a Savage 99C. Everything else are Remington 700BDL CEs or Safari grade IV.

            No fault or busting on the .308 [have one] Just felt  it was a little much umph.

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          CapnMac | Apr 10, 2003 09:40pm | #117

          Depends upon the deer.  In South Texas, the mule deer get to be a pretty good size.  In Western Texas, .308 lets you get close enough to antelope to get a shot.  No elk about, which is a shame (BFOE are too stringy . . . -g-).

          But, I also know of people with .300 WinMag or 7mm mag, mostly for the flat trajectory--or for "windage" . . .

          Best part of .308 is being able to walk into just about any Academy or Wal-Mart and finding a selection of ammo.  Of course, I think .243 is nearly ideal for deer--I just don't want to stock yet another caliber -g- . . .

          Where I live, in south central Texas, our deer all live in river bottoms.  Don't need much more than a .32-20 (which is a really handy size to tote through brush & weeds).

          1. GregGibson | Apr 11, 2003 01:18am | #118

            You got it, Gunn . . .  .22LR it is.  I used to live on a game refuge.  The ranger station was about a mile away.  The .22 didn't make much noise.  Hey, I was desperately hunting for food - a very poor college student but a pretty fair shot !

            Greg.

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    ProDek | Apr 10, 2003 07:54am | #114

    OK Kevin- I've past this post up long enough.......

    Truth is I just couldn't think up a good handle till I walked out to my  truck one day and saw it on my license plate!....

    The rest is history..........

    Bob

    "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

    1. CAGIV | Apr 10, 2003 07:59am | #115

      Bob,

        Was that your shop we saw here a few months ago, all clean and organized?  Your truck is always spotless too.  And I remember a picture of your bed extender, also well organized  Your hammer fan was also very well laid out....

      You either do not work much, because you spend your time cleaning and being organized, or you spend to much time, trying to make your stuff look that way before taking pictures to impress us??

      Just bustin your chops

      View ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year

      Edited 4/12/2003 8:26:26 PM ET by CAG

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        ProDek | Apr 10, 2003 08:18am | #116

        LOL- Yup you got it anal beyond belief...........

        I get up wash the truck, load it after I vacume the cab, get to the site and make sure everything is going well,go to the lumber yard and see if they have any new hammers, then come home and sort my tools so they will always be ready for the next Job...........:-)Bob

        "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

        1. jimblodgett | Apr 11, 2003 05:23pm | #120

          Don't you believe him for a second, CAG.  I've worked with that guy a little, and he can make a mess of sawdust in a hurry. 

          "Many a true word are said in jest".  That doesn't make them any less harmful.  Show a little respect to your elders.  We'ra all different and if you become 1/2 the man Bob is by his age, you'll have accomplished something.

          Would you have asked him that if we were all shooting the breeze over coffee?

          1. CAGIV | Apr 11, 2003 09:42pm | #121

             

            Don't you believe him for a second, CAG.  I've worked with that guy a little, and he can make a mess of sawdust in a hurry. 

            "Many a true word are said in jest".  That doesn't make them any less harmful.  Show a little respect to your elders.  We'ra all different and if you become 1/2 the man Bob is by his age, you'll have accomplished something.

            Would you have asked him that if we were all shooting the breeze over coffee?

            Jim,

              I think you may have been reading into what I writing a little to much.  That post was at the end of a series of posts between us, on two different threads and in response to both threads.  It was a just a little humor between to people.  I don't think Bob took offence, but if he did it wasn't intended.

            You may have also missed the bottom of the post where I said, just bustin your chops.

            Please don't lecture me on respecting my elders. I respect people of all ages, not based on age, but rather on the individual, and I do respect Bob.

            Neil

            View ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year

            Edited 4/11/2003 2:43:16 PM ET by CAG

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            ProDek | Apr 12, 2003 02:33am | #122

            Eeeeeeeeeeasy! You two ..........No offense taken at this end Jim we were just pokin fun.............:-)     Thanks for commin to my aid though , Hey what was that crack about my age? There ain't no salt & pepper in my hair. (cause I don't have any).

            Bob

            "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

          3. jimblodgett | Apr 12, 2003 02:36am | #123

            "...I do respect Bob."  You weren't showing it very well. 

            I wasn't "lecturing" you.  But don't worry, I won't bother trying to point anything out to you in the future.  If this was a coffee table I'd be getting up and walking away now.

          4. Piffin | Apr 12, 2003 02:50am | #124

            Holy Mother Superior!

            I don't think that screen name is taken yet, Batman.

            Sheez.

            Excellence is its own reward!

          5. MisterT | Apr 12, 2003 02:21pm | #128

            You guys will have to excuse Jim.

            All those years of haulin around that heavy asss wormdrive to cut heavy asss MDF and driving(fixin) a heavy asss Chevy, have worn him a little thin.

            :D

            Jim buy the way why weren't there any actual photos of you haulin MDF in that article??

            :)

            Now I done it!Mr T

            Do not try this at home!

            I am an Experienced Professional!

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            Qtrmeg | Apr 12, 2003 04:11am | #125

            Jim, he was kidding, in a backwards way he was respecting how well Bob keeps order. Me too, the last time I was organized like that was, hmm, it's been ten years. Kudos to Bob, the next time I get this circus act of mine anywhere near that close I'm taking pictures and hanging them on the wall.

            You ok, guy?

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            JeffBuck | Apr 13, 2003 08:55am | #132

            See ya Jim!

            This like the time ya cried that U wouldn't sit at a table with Pete after spending the weekend at his place for the first fest?

            Change yer panties or don't let the door hit ya in the a$$.

            Most elders have earned my respect........not whined for it.

            JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

             Fine Carpentery.....While U Waite                  

          8. jimblodgett | Apr 13, 2003 07:14pm | #133

            Hey Neil, I've been thinking I owe you an apology.  I took something out of context there, my bad.  I apologize. - Jim

          9. CAGIV | Apr 14, 2003 12:22am | #135

            No problem...  I can see your point also

            Glad we could resolve it and cooler heads prevailed.

            Peace NeilView ImageGo Jayhawks..............Next Year

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