I was on eBay, looking at cordless tools, and saw that there are huge numbers of brand new drills, impact drivers, saws, etc., all being sold without batteries or charger.
And of course, the price difference reflects what is being offered.
What’s up with this?
Presuming you already had cordless tools of the same brand, voltage, and battery type, would you buy one of these?
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They are probably tools from someone who bought a 6 pack set but doesn't want the grinder or doesn't want the drill because they already have one.
My favorite thing is with the advertising of the cordless sets. Dewalt is classic for this. They'll say, buy the 5 tool combo set for $699 and save $400 (sparately you will pay over $1100). But when you deduct the 6 additional batteries you would have by buying them separately, that is your $400. It's crazy to buy those cordless tools without the batteries unless your getting a major deal. All the cost of the cordless tools is in the batteries, although not as much as a few years ago.
You are wrong in your math.
Dewalt ran the six pack for 20 percent off of the regular price of 599, not 5 for 699.
In addition they gave away the 7th tool by rebate, so add that .
My bill was; 599 x .80 = 479.20 for 7 tools and two batteries , plus carry all cloth bag.
I pulled the actual bill;
479.20 6 pack
79.20 fer two battery pack at the 20 percent off.
000000 dont ferget the 7th and the bag
Total bill 605.86
amazon's most recent tool crib has the 5 pack (drill, recip, circ, jig saw, light) hard case for $699. The 6 pack in the soft case (drill, recip, circ, impact driver, grinder, light) is $629. I guess the mark up is for the jig saw vs the grinder and grinder, otherwise the sets are the same (except the case but who cares about that)
I stand corrected on the 5 pack.
To further gather this information though is that Dewalt & Bosch ran these sets 20 percent off of that marked price at Christmas. Plus they gave away the extra tool in rebate at that time which is really the 7th tool in my case which brought the jig saw. I figgure a lot of folks bought at Christmas like I did and they dont want some of the tools. I know I dont if I could have sold them. I think we came up with Genes answer together.
Now just for fun;
I dont like the skill saw because its user unfriendly for comfort of one hand because it tilts my hand forward with the difficulty of pushing a saftey lever.
I dont care all that much for the grinder but rates third overall. [I dont have the jig saw yet]
The angle driver drill is only a drill in my opinion . It doesnt have a clutch, and only one slow speed. It does have variable speed but is too strong for screws with out a clutch. It should be a good tool for angle boring but I already have corded that will out perfom.
The saws all is outstanding ! Number 1 over it all. It simply rocks. Very user friendly and very easy blade changes. Its a very fast speeded saw with lots of ump power. So far Ive had it on scaffold and ladders with different blades in my apron. This saw was a wonderful invention. I just keep going to the truck after it ! I inspected jobs last year and kept seeing a plumber using it . He cut all kinds of pipe with it , mainly large schedule #40 . The electrician kept stealing it to cut his schedule # 80 and metal conduit.
Unless you need something, Christmas time has some very good deals. Dewalt probably offers the most holiday discounts but PC, Milwaukee and Bosch all offer quite a few. I should have bought the kreg jig then, that was a good deal.
One thing to look at is ebay for different tools. When these tools companies give a free sander with the purchase of a bosch jig saw, free stapler with the purchase of a porter cable compressor/nailer combo, etc. Check out ebay when people start to receive the free tool, you'll suddenly see a hundred of them. Like your free jig saw, if you didn't want it then you could put it on ebay to lower the overall price you paid for the combo set.
If you want to sell that grinder..w/o batts or anything..lemme know.?
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Thanks , Ill keep that in mind . I dont think Im gonna use it much.
Depends on how cheap and if I needed the addtion to a set. A drill would be worth less cause we collect those with bad batteries. But , somthing I didnt have would be nice as long as I had batteries. I bought a dewalt 6 pack and two extra new batteries which gave me a total of four . I ordered a jig saw as a gift for buying the six pack. I kinda wanted the torgue wrench.
In my opinion these are people who buy them wholesale, there are ebay deals where you can "buy" the info to get access to the wholesale deal. Then they split them up and sell the pieces of the set. Look at the "seller's other items" and you will usually see three or four sets on auction at one time.
Hardly the case of someone who did not like the tool or a piece of the set. Also it should ease your mind that ebay is not the cyber pawn shop of stolen tools, unless they fell off the truck.
My (limited) expierence with power tools on E-bay is that they go for about 85 - 90% of the normal (discounted - new) price. Not worth my time especially since you end up with a questionable warranty at best. I prefer to purchase from sources that offer no hastle return policies. To purchase a tool with no batteries, I'd be looking for a 60% discount.
What I was sort of looking for was an impact driver. This 14.4V model DeWalt matches the battery setup I've already got.
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It is the DW-054 unit, and the street price for one new seems to be about $180. For that you get the tool, a pair of 14.4V XR batteries, a charger, and a case.
This one, less batteries and charger, alleged to be new, no warranty, went for $91 plus $7 s&h. What you see is what you get. I didn't bid on it. Still lurking.
It looks to me like what these eBay resellers have done, was to buy up volumes of year-end bundled tool packages, then sell them unbundled, getting close to today's retail price of each component.
In other words, what these things seem to be commanding as a price, is the street price of the package, less the two batteries and charger.
It's kinda wierd. The on-line retailers and stores are all selling the package kits, plus battery and charger packages, and batteries only, but none of these retailers are selling the bare no-battery tools. Only these eBay sharks.
The best known brand names, like dewalt, will sell for a much higher price than some of the lesser known names. Stuff like powermatic, forrest, festool and other high quality but lesser known by the general public will sell for much better prices. It will be tough for you to get that dewalt for much cheaper. I looked at the auctions that ended over the last few months and the cheapest was $67 and that had $17 for shipping on top of that.
I think you could get a panasonic for a much better price, just because it is not as big of a name.
Does dewalt sell refurbished? That would be your best bet.
Hmm , you add more to the picture.
I almost chose the same thing instead of the jig saw.
Im gonna have to go look at this stuff .
Tool King does bare tools, including refurbs.
http://www.toolking.com/dewalt/view.asp?id=10870
Yes, I bought one of these bare 14.4 DW impact drivers using the Buy It Now ebay option. I already had a couple of 14.4 DeWalt drills, lots of batteries of various age and quality, and three chargers. The driver was new and came with the instruction manual. I saved a lot of money that I didn't have, and love the tool.
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i'm not exactly sure where these batt-less units come from, but that's how i got my makita 12v impact driver. already had the matching regular drill/driver and got an excellent deal on the impact, brand spanking new with case and warranty card on ebay. just no charger or batts, which i didn't need and was more than happy to not pay for again.
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