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Window building advice

terryb | Posted in General Discussion on August 1, 2007 07:05am

I’m a cabinetmaker & I’ve built some craftsman style cabinets for our living room. I’d like to replace the existing aliminum-framed windows in that room with white oak framed windows to keep the look consistent. There are 3 of them side-by-side, each is 6′ high and 4′ wide with fixed glass at top and an awning window at the bottom. The awning is about 1/4 of the total window height – about 18″. I priced Marvins and can’t afford them so I’d like to build my own. I’ve built windows before for the house but not with any moveable parts. I’d like to find some stock hardware to use for the awning windows and build the frame to suit. Does anyone have any experience/advice on a project like this and know how or where to get the awning hardware and perhaps how to best weatherstrip? Thanks in advance for your help

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  1. Ragnar17 | Aug 01, 2007 10:14am | #1

    Unless you want some sort of crank-out mechanism for your sash, you'll be able to find some friction hinges (for lack of a better description) without too much difficulty.  I used to buy them from time to time from small dealers in the Seattle area who are no longer in business.  "Builder's Hardware Supply" in Seattle would probably have something like that, too.

    A common brand name is "Whitco".  I think another is "Truth".  They are installed in a rabbet on the sides of an awning sash.

    I'd suggest finding a teflon leaf weatherstrip; they come with an integral barbed shank that is inserted into a narrow kerf.  It's pretty easy to kerf the perimeter of the sash, cut the weatherstrip to length, and push them in.

    With a little internet searching, you'll be able to find that teflon weatherstrip -- there's probably even a local source.

  2. DanH | Aug 01, 2007 04:38pm | #2

    Check with local building supply outfits for a damaged unit that you can scavenge hardware off of.

    So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable Creature, since it enables one to find or make a Reason for everything one has a mind to do. --Benjamin Franklin
  3. DanH | Aug 01, 2007 04:43pm | #3

    But also note that Truth sells just about anything you could want:

    Look up the part here:
    https://www.truth.com/2006/
    Then order it here:
    http://www.wintrolsales.com/

    So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable Creature, since it enables one to find or make a Reason for everything one has a mind to do. --Benjamin Franklin
    1. jimblodgett | Aug 01, 2007 08:15pm | #4

      Here's a link to the company that makes Whitco hinges. http://www.vincentwhitney.com. Great hinges. We have used them for awning and casement windows for about 25 years now and had zero problems with them - easy to install, well designed and built, affordable, prompt service...I can't say enough good things about them.The last houseful of windows we built we switched to a barbed insert flipper type silicone weatherstripping from Conservation Resource Technologies in (I think) Maryland. They might have a decent website by now, but I ordered over the phone after perusing their literature and deciding what I wanted - again, great folks to deal with. Very good product too.
      Huck said it first. I just agreed with him.

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    McDesign | Aug 01, 2007 08:19pm | #5

    I have scratch-built two sets of oak casements for a client; two pairs of outswing (screens on the inside) with crank and track hardware I bought online.  I used door weatherstripping, and it seals tightly.

    If it would help, I can get pix easily.

    Forrest

    1. terryb | Aug 02, 2007 06:03am | #7

      Yes pictures would be great. Where online did you get the hardware?

  5. oldhand | Aug 02, 2007 01:27am | #6

    Address for previously mentioned weatherstrip source is conservationtechnology.com where there is a good info section and selection of weatherstripping. I last used the silicone "O" seal with the barbed back for sides of casement windows and flipper seal for the bottoms. Worked pretty well.

    Retired until my next job.

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