I bought a few new replacement windows for a song and dance. The only problem is that they are replacement windows, no nailing flange.. I want to install them in new construction, is there any way I can frame them in so they are secure. I got them for such a good price, that if I can’t use them in my new addition, then I’ll use them in my workshop.
They are approx 3″ or 4″ deep and I’m doing a 2×6 wall.
They are vinyl. Can I carefully drill thru the sash into shims and frame. Or would it be better to use wooden stops and trim.
It doesn’t look like there is anyway to attach a nailing flange, like I know some window manufacturers make as a add on. They are Pella Thermostar’s.
thanx ahead
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What process was expected to be used when placing them in as replacement windows?
The replacement windows (I think they were Pella Thermostars) I put in went in against a stop created when I took the old windows out and left their casings. I just caulked the old "stop" and slid the replacements in and then nailed the sides of the replacements to the frames. You could probably get installation directions (didn't they come with the windows you bought?) by going to a place that sells them, or going to Pella's web site. I think building a shadow-box sort of thing, with the bottom sloped to allow drainage away and incorporating stops to butt the replacements agains would work. (Mine went in from the inside, which was very nice since I did it in winter.)
A major problem I can see is if these are going into old construction, trying to flash the frames properly to keep water out.
I* would say to essentially BUILD a frame with casing integral sized to seat these units.
'course, there goes all your 'savings'
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I would measure the frame of the window and build a rough opening 1/4 larger for the width and 2" larger on the height. Measure a 3 1/4 pocket and install exterior stops that are 1/2 by 3/4. Install a 1 1/2 PT sill angled at 14 degrees and that will leave you with the proper sized opening to accept a replacement window with 3 1/4 jamb depth.
Mark
If going that way. I'd do the sill first, then the stops
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Correct. My haste put the sequence out of order. Good catch!
Mark
Just call me picky, but neither one of us mentioned the pan flashing either, which is something we should not assume that a novice knows about
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Check out this link:
http://web.pella.com/products/installdocs/Documents/InstallationInstructions2009/V784840.pdf
BTW....it's "I got them for a song" not " a song and dance" ,song and dance is what the contractor gives you as reason for the job not going well : o
Geoff
Thanx for the great ideas, I think I'll just use stops and trim, see how that goes.
Your right Geoff, it is 'a song', but,there was dancing going on once I found out how much I could get them for...
I'd build like piffin says, sill first and then legs and top.
I'd use AZAK or PVC so that it does not need to be painted, and I would put a pan under the sill and make sure everything is sloped out and flashed properly.
Windows leak, and your application will likely leak more. If you pan under, it doesnt matter.
Thanx JeffinPA, you'all have been very helpful, I'll post pics when I get started
I don't know if they would work for your particular application, but I recently installed a lot of windows using the "shim screws" sold by a company called conservation technology.
http://www.conservationtechnology.com/building_shimscrews.html
THey worked terrifically in my application. You can drill through the jambs (in my case under a remocable liner that you replace..) and the nice thing is that these screws remain adjustable later, should you need.
Thanx, I will give them a try. They sound like the way to go.