Ready to order windows that will install over a window seat and I want to make sure the sizing is correct. Standard 8′ walls. picture/casement combos factory mulled.
> Am I correct in assuming the window header will be at 6’8″ above subfloor in order to line up with the exterior door headers? Is the 6’8″ standard or do I have that wrong?
>I read the recent FHB article, BUT…What window seat hieght have you found to be perfect?
The window RO hieght, of course, will be determined by these two dimensions.
TIA….
Edited 9/25/2003 1:45:14 PM ET by johnnyd
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Did you mean to write 6' 8" ???
Yes...I'll edit, thanks.
In a word, no.
6'8" is from finished floor and is for the door, not the header.
Then you got casing and clearance then header.
Get your window in hand before you go any farther, cuz' manu's each have their own standards and you can't really trust their printed brochures anyway.
SamT
Johnny,
Around here in NJ if we use precuts 92-5/8", we always use 2-2x10 header with a 2x4 on the bottom. The 2x10 header gets nailed right to the bottom plate of your two top plates and that gives us a rough opening of 6'11" or 83" from the top of the subfloor.
That allows your 6'8" doors to fit right in. So we keep all the door and window headers the same throughout the whole house.
6'8" as your saying is no good. That's the door size. If all your door heads are set at 6'8" your in big trouble. Are they?
If they are your going to have to fix that problem.
Joe Carola
Edited 9/26/2003 6:15:56 AM ET by Framer
I frame my stuff at 82".....
but same deal. ..... just a little tighter.
And since I do remodeling .....that's usually 82" from the "high spot" on the old subfloor.
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They're not framed yet, and I don't have the window in hand because I haven't ordered it yet. I'm just trying to make sure that I order the correct hieght window so that I'll end up with a window seat at a comfortable hieght, with room for a 3- 4 " cushion. They will be framed I believe with what you say...6' 11" (83") from header to subfloor. So, with 3/4" finish floor, an 18" seat hieght, and say 3" for casing and trim, I end up with 61 1/4" or 5' 1 1/4". That gets me in the right range to order the window..correct?
Thanks for your response.
Any time Johnny.
Joe Carola
I frame headers to 6' 10-1/2".
A seat is most comfortable for most people at 18" or slightly less. That is for sitting in. The width size of your window indicates that you will be able to liedown or curl up in it. That kind of seating CAN be slightly lower.
Figure the seat with a compressed cushion - that will depend somnewhat on the type of stuffing you use. Cheap foam rubber will be a half inch if you are lucky. With others, a three inch cushion might compress to 1-3/4" is all.
You will also want to have 4-6" under the window for apron and maybe a roll pillow cushion. It is safer if the window is nopt right down on the cushion too and screens will last longer.
So if you have a normal header height, and a sixteen inch seat/cushion support, your window RO will be in the neighboorhood of five feet or so..
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Piffin,
Thanks again for your advice. This synchs up with what we've read elsewhere.
The windows get ordered today. Foundation works starts next week.
Johnny, in this case for your safety and your final inspection if that seat's done for it......think about tempered glass. Some inspectors think of the window seat to window clearance inches the same as those used in relation to floor. Kid's room, you bet tempered.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
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Andy,
I'm from Caldwell, Essex County but I grew up in Bloomfield. I'm working in Berkely Hts and Baskin Ridge at this point. Tomorrow I'll be working in Spring Lake and Monday I'll be working in Mendham.
Are you still in NJ?
Joe Carola
No, I live in Connecticut now. My mother's family is from down your way, North Arlington. And years back, I did a couple of jobs in Basking Ridge. Every time I visit, NJ seems more crowded. It's amazing you guys can fit more houses in.
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Connecticut - New Jersey - What's the difference? They're both suburbs of NYC, aren't they?.
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Whoa, hold on there. Them's fighting words, even if they are almost true. That's like saying Maine is a suburb of Boston. And every other city in the Northeast, now that I remember the Maine Turnpike traffic jam.
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Maine is a suburb of Beantown, at least this southern half. And they view Northern Woods half as merely a vacant lot, yet to be developed into a park to walk their dogs..
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At least you have a boundary to the north; in the eastern part of Connecticut, we have neighbors who commute to both NYC and Boston.
I suppose I should be more grateful, the commuters are a good source of income, since they have little time for home improvement/repairs, spending most of their time on the trains, going or coming.
Start a BR remodel tomorrow for a couple from NYC, in fact...
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Hmm, when I lived in NJ, I entertained the thought of bumper stickers saying: NJ -- The over-regulated state. I haven't felt that need in CT. But I think in part you're right because the Sox/Yankees border runs right through CT.Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
It's amazing you guys can fit more houses in.
They're still squeezing them in here. Alot of the larger homes being built take up most of the property.
I do more additions the framing homes. I'll do homes for certain builders but the most of my work now is additions and remodels.
Joe Carola