I never heard of this tool before joining this site but now I wish I had one. I need to cut the OSB and 2×4’s under this fireplace insert, about 1/2″ behind the face. Would the MultiMaster be able to do this with the circular saw blade ?
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The MM can do that job but not with a circular saw blade, they have their own type blades. The thing doesn't spin, it oscillates.
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Actually MM does have a circular (and semi circle) saw blades.And I have not used my that enough to be sure, but I think that they would be circular blade might better for runnin a stright line.But the 2x4" willbe SLOW CUTTING. I would use a sawzall on them..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
I've used those too (the semi circle) but it doesn't rotate like a circular saw blade as I thought chucky was meaning.
You are right though, it would be somewhat time consuming to cut through 2X material.
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Yeah, I know that the unit cuts by oscillating and doesn't actually rotate.
Their regular blades would probably work too and at least I can buy the entry level unit for $250 here in Canada. It has one E-cut blade.
The Top kit has all of these but is $450 but i don't know if i'd use them all.
1 FEIN MultiMaster FMM 250 Q,1 sanding pad, 5 of each type of sanding sheet, grain 80, 120 and 180,1 universal E-CUT saw blade (29mm),1 HSS segment saw blade,1 Carbide-tipped segment saw blade,1 rigid stopping knife,1 Profile sanding set, 1 dust extraction device,,1 sanding pad, perforated,5 of each type of sanding sheet, grain 80, 120 and 180, perforated,1 carbide rasp (triangular), perforated,1 plastic carrying case
Too bad i can't find a local supplier in my city as it would make a nice Father's Day gift to myself.
Renodepot in Hull sells them and I think the Tool and Equipment store does too.
Thanks, I'll try them out. I'll be in Hull tomorrow for my FIL's party. Unfortunately, my gift to myself will have to wait since I just opened my Father's Day gift from my wife. A nice GPS. I'll use it to go to Reno-Depot.
Reno-Depot used to have a small display with multimasters and accessories. They have since reorganized the store and when I looked about a month ago all I noticed was a couple of kits on a lower shelf priced at about $440.00 IIRC. Not obvious at all unless you are looking specifically for them, but it was new stock. Presumeably you can order additional accessories through them.
Too bad i can't find a local supplier in my city as it would make a nice Father's Day gift to myself.
Heard that!
Happy Father's Day!
Luka has a link for making the blades. Took a Japanese pull saw and made several e-blades out of it. Much cheaper.
One e-blade is like $40+, too expensive for what it is in my opinion.
Yeah, I know that the unit cuts by oscillating and doesn't actually rotate.
My bust, I assumed that is what you meant when you suggested a circular saw blade. When I first heard people speak about the MM I thought it did spin. Someone lined me out on that! :-) I couldn't figure out how the e-blade could spin and cut proficiently!
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That tool is extremely versatile.
I have cut base still nailed to the wall, cut jams for tile and flooring work. Cuts out grout on tiles. It can sand. Used it to scrape old thinset off the floor.
The blades are expensive though. Others here have alternatives even to making their own. I'm not so energetic....... :-)
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Yeah, they are expensive blades. Just spent $151 on 4 new blades... and that is only because my hardware supplier likes me and gave me about 20% off.
They make a plunge blade with long aggressive teeth... like you see on the newer handsaws... they all broke off rather quickly for me... so I'll see if they warrantee it against such failure.
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I am all about a business making money but after they get you on the main item you'd think they would give you some slack on the accessories!
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No sheet... crazy expensive blades.
And maybe they could lose the packaging advertisement that says "as seen on TV"..... it just makes stuff look cheesy.
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I don't know what I am going to do. I know I am through paying for those e-blades. I bought a good pull saw and plan to make them "when" I get time and remember.....
Surprised someone hasn't made a knockoff. If so give me a link!
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Thanks brother!!!!
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I get mine from Mark at HDT. He has not had time or energy to put them on site, does not stock a pile of them, generally on hand for his local customers including head Pimp (me). Think he gave me better deal than I deserved.
What is HDT?
I tried to google it but nothing......
Do they have a site?
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What is HDT?
I think he was referring to Heavy Duty Tools. I don't see any Fein accessories available right now. I've never bought from them, but they have been favorably reviewed on BT before.
Thanks, I'll check them out. He did say he doesn't advertise carrying them so might have to call to get those blades.
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What Don said. Sorry, I should have included link. Did not to want to sound like too much of a pimp. They are my local Electric and Plumbing house, really good guys. Overwhelmed and understaffed somewhat and hard to keep up with the brick and mortar and website.
It is a family operation, father, two sons, daughter, son-in-law are only ones involved full-time, spouses help out. I have no connection other than consider them friends and great supplier.
I e-mailed them so I shall see what they come up with! Thanks.
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Does anybody realize that Bosch makes a similar tool to the multimaster. The Bosch part number is PMF180E. The problem is that they don't sell it in the United States. It is available in Great Britain as are the blades for it. The blades fit the Multimaster well and are cheaper. I recently ordered two blades on Ebay from a seller in Great Britain. The blades arrived in 5 days and cost about $13.95 each. They're nice blades. The reason they cost this much is because of the exchange rate. The British Pound is over $2.00. The sellers name on Ebay is hendr01d. I believe he has a store in Great Britain. I was extremely happy with his service.Go to Ebay. Type in Multimaster blades. Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you will find the Bosch section. It shows the blades, The tool at $63.99, plus a nice video of the tools functions. It claims 1/2 the price of the Fein tool. The blades will only fit the old style Multimaster.
Edited 6/15/2008 10:02 pm ET by retiree
No kidding, what's with the infomercials? I got one, and every time I pull it out, people say "I've seen that on TV!" Kinda puts it in a class with the Popeil's pocket fisherman.
No sheet... crazy expensive blades.
Pete, check out e-bay, there is a guy on there that makes replacement blades for the MM and there a bit cheaper then the MM brand cutters.
There was some other guy that was making them but that person got a letter from the MM lawyers and put a stop to him producing any more.
I'd post a link but dont have one that I can find.
Doug
"There was some other guy that was making them but that person got a letter from the MM lawyers and put a stop to him producing any more"only those with the star hole..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
only those with the star hole.
Oh, didnt know that. I dont have to use the star hole on mine so I'd better give him a second look.
Doug
I see that he does not have the site setup to take order for the round ones.But look at this thread.http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43208Oh I see that he has updated some of his comments. He said that the website should be up soon.And that the round hole blades can be used in the new models..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
"I am all about a business making money but after they get you on the main item you'd think they would give you some slack on the accessories!"
Jar
I totally agree with you I bought blades for my multimaster from this Co. Multiblades.com they were $16.00 each buy 10 get one free & free shipping they worked great went to order more and got this e-mail from them which is posted below da##m shame because if this little business could do it why is Fein jammin us for $40 plus on the blades. Sure it's a great tool but I've ruined a new Fein blade on the 1st cut man that hurts but not so bad at $16
Zeeya
I am sending this email to let you know that we have been informed by Fein that some features of our blades for the Multimaster are in violation of US Patent Law.
The blades for the Supercut appear to be OK at this time but it needs to be verified.
The issue has been resolved amicably with no legal consecuences but we will not be able to sell anymore any of the blades we have been making for the Multimaster.
The problem revolves around the star hole.
I firmly believe that the star hole I use is different than the one Fein uses but I don't have the millions needed to prove that in court.
I thank you for your past support and hope to count on you again in the future.
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That's a shame Fein shut them down!
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Those sound like the soft wood/material precision cutting blades, just get the blades marked "Standard" with the strong short teeth.Never fear the want of business. A man who qualifies himself well for his calling, never fails of employment.
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Sawzall will do that.
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I'd be able to cut the 2x4 but i don't think I could do a good job of cutting the OSB. If I was cutting flush to the face, I could but i need to cut it 1/2" back.
I think he wants to save the metal fireplace unit though
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Cant you discounect that insert and pull it out to cut all the wood off? I have a MM but I think I could pull the insert out quicker. The MM is nice but fast it aint!
Doug
I've always wanted a MM but haven't had the real need to justify it yet.
Always considered the MM a 'finese' type tool.
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That would have been my first choice. In fact, I would want to lower the insert to floor level. Unfortunately, I'm not comfortable enough playing around with the chimney flue to add an extra 4". I'm sure it's straightforward but I'm always concerned about insurance issue should the house burn down and I don't know if you need to be licensed to install an insert and flue.
I was actually able to remove the bottom piece of metal from the insert. It was screwed to the sides and a few spot welds on the bottom. I can now cut it back 1/2" with my sawzall.
Edited 6/14/2008 2:25 pm ET by Chucky
If you can shim the front edge of the stove off the osb, you'd be able to use a multimaster... buy if you hit the bottom of the stove, you've toasted 20 buck blade.The circular blade wouldn't last long on the osb, I don't think... get some japanese tooth style 2 1/2" wide blades...or, like Doug said, pull the unit... probably much faster and neater If dogs run free, then what must be,
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To quote a famous line from "The Big Chill", "if you sleep late you miss a few mini-dramas". (;-) He said he pulled a piece off the bottom and was able to do it with recip.
Bob
I'd just use a 10.4 micron wavelength CO2 class IV laser of about 40 watts. Done in no time. Watch the pets, especially cats. Cats like lasers, well until their head gets cut in two. The good thing about lasers is there is little blood loss, so clean up is easy.
Since you need to cut the wood back to 2 inches under the fireplace, the multimaster is the only tool I can think of that would do it effectively.
I've got, oh some 30 or so different kinds of corded tools on my trailer, and the MM has got to be my favorite. I do often use a jigsaw with the foot permanently discarded for flush cutting when it's practical as it cut's faster than the multimaster, and neater than my recip, but for cut's like you need here, the MM's the one I'd reach for. You need to set the blade at an angle, or use the round blade, and it will take just a little bit of time to cut all that wood out.
The plunge cut blades are expensive, as everyone has noted, but they are very easily re-sharpened with a dreamel or a rottozip with a diamond grinding wheel ($15) / and a pair of reading glasses if your over 40. I'll resharpen mine after about 5 cumulative minutes of cutting time, more often if I'm cutting nails. It takes me about 60 seconds to re-sharpen the blade to just as good as new, and I'll probably re-sharpen a blade 20 to 30 times over a year. by the time the blade has been sharpened down to a nub a year or two latter, I've got my money's worth out of it.
Edited 6/15/2008 12:20 am ET by drbgwood
Funny looks the way my fireplace did. I hated it raised up and removed all the wood. But in my case I had access to the back of the unit from the garage. Just remove the sheet rock on the garage side it was not finished. If you can get access remove the screws on the straps that attach it to the floor give it a shove it will side back do your cuts then slide it forward and reattach.
In my case I lifted it up a bit at a time on each side with a pry bar, added blocking under it till I could get two 2x4s under it with blocks supporting the ends of the 2 by (like a house jacked up getting ready to be moved) on the living room floor and garage floor. Then removed the flooring under it then and lowered it. the last section of pipe was adjustable height section,
Just another idea
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