In our plans to redo our finished basement we would like to include a woodstove. I’m just trying to figure out some preliminary logistics as far as the install. There is a bump-out built into our foundation for a fireplace in the living room. As of now we have no actual Chimney built on the bump-out. My thought is that we can build a hearth in the basement and vent a NFPA approved pipe chimney (ie. non-masonry) up through that bump-out.
My reason for trying to use the bump-out feature in the foundation is that I can then avoid trying to pass the chimney/exhaust pipe up through a wall. This would be just surrounded by cement (no drywall etc.) and vented through a basic roof outside just above the foundation level. The pipe would then continue up the side of the house on teh exterior and be vented above the actual roof.
Are there any problems you guys can see right away with this approach?
Thanks
SJ
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Not as long as you use the correct materials . I guess we dont need to go into that , or do we ? You need specs to follow before you start with out making this a long thread .
Remember radiant is not effective in a basement as it fights the cold walls which wont warm . Convection is better .
Tim Mooney
Thanks for the reply Tim.
I don't need specifics necessarily. When I go to do it I will pull what I need from the NFPA and local codes for state and town.
I think this approach will work fine. I just have to make sure the drywall has enough clearance etc.
The real issue for me is to make sure the chimney pipe going up the side of the house doesn't look like crap.
SJKnow a little about alot and alot about little.
It is going to be a cold chimney , but it wont be a problem using triple wall pipe all the way up. Of course you will build a wood chimney to match the siding for the exterior . You can put your hand on a triple wall pipe and it wont even be warm .
Tim Mooney
Thanks for the thoughts guys, as usual I appreciate it.
Tim - For some reason everyone in my family absolutely deplores the "wooden siding chimney" look. So if I don't do the ugly pipe coming up the side of the house I guess I have to splurge for a mason and a single flue chimney.
Andy - How's the new project coming? Can't believe that your "new" house has celebrated its 300+ Christmas this past week. The stove she wants (notice "she") is the Vermont Castings Aspen (smaller stove up to 24k BTU). The finished basement is about 800-850 square feet of space. The Aspen should be fine. I have seen some people put a huge stove that could heat a 2500 square foot space in a small living room and it was like the tropics in there. They always wondered why they were so tired all winter.
SJ
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How about a web site on the aspen stoves ? I would like to see what your wife picked .
Tim Mooney
Tim - http://www.vermontcastings.com Go to their woodstoves and the model name is the Aspen. Nice small unit 16" wide by about 24" deep. Fits 16" logs. Will be more than enough for what we need. You can get the stove for about $500. I'm just trying to figure out what else I need to factor in as far as pricing goes....obviously stove pipe and the exterior pipe.
SJ
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We are installing a Vermont Casting stove in our new house. A couple of questions have been in the back of my mind so I thought I might ask them in this thread.....Have you folks had experience installing a "combustion air" run of some sort to the stove? We also have a large sheet metal flashing on the wall where the chimney will exit to the exterior. What type of insulation is suitable to wrap this close to the exiting pipe? I fear a large hole in my insulation there and my air/vapour barrier....
thanks, Jeff
Steve,
The plans are done and submitted for my house. thanks for asking. I have the Vermont Vigalent with the additional coal hopper. Fantastic stove. I bought it 20 years ago and its as good as new. The stove you bought is also a great unit. I have friend up in Maine that just bought one. the V.C. Aspen.
From experiance always keep a cast iron kettle on top of your stove to keep the air humidified ( I sometimes drop in some vanilla extract for the aroma or whatever you like) or your skin will turn to leather sooner then later and a small oscillating fan is still a good idea to help distribute the heat.
Be warm
Namaste'
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With fuel prices climbing ,....................
A fire makes a house a home . Wood heat can be simply beautiful. None miss it more than the families who exaust their wood supply before old man winter is done . Suddenly there is a sense of loss that no one knew before the stove was installed ! Here the whole family has enjoyed the stove from the snow out side to the warming of socks. A cup of tea from the kettle on top of it tastes really good as they warm their back side . The kids , the dog and the cat make it impossible to load wood stepping over them. The woman in the house complained about the smoke smell when the damper wasnt opened before the fire door ! She also complained about the mess that was left by the wood loading . But one thing is for sure , she isnt happy when the wood supply is done !
Tim Mooney
That love of wood heat is the reason we want to install a new stove. There is something about sitting by a nice fire after a large meal on a weekend during the winter. Whether it is an open fireplace or a stove. Something about the wood heat and crackle from the fire will put me to sleep within moments of sitting down.
Her mother has a coal stove that they use to heat the entire first floor of their house and after dinner on Christmas Eve......two minutes in a chair next to the stove and I was out.
SJ
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It still puts me to sleep. I cant watch all of Monday Night Football if Im doing it in front of a fire in the stove . Some really long naps have been had laying in front of the stove. If I cant get the wood cut I have no quams about paying the wood cutter the price to get him to deliver it cut and stacked. Its a price that must be payed with out question or reservation of" man that was high". It simply doesnt matter . It seems to be the quality of life more than the money or the labor to keep that stove churning out 50,000 btu per hour.
Keep Warm ,
Tim Mooney
It's OK from what I can see and assuming that yopu'll eventually be making something more upstairs but it's good to have that heat source in the basement - and the mess that it can generate.
The only problem is that an exterior metal chimney will be colder than any other position for it and it will accumulate creosote faster so bne sure to keep the wood dry and the flu clean.
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Steve,
If you have lower then 8' ceilings I'd suggest putting a small oscilating fan beind the stove up high and off to one side to blow the heat through your basement or youre going to be stifled unless its a real small stove.
BE well
Namaste
Andy
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Based on experience you will have trouble with draw and backpuffing unless you install a chimney fan on top of the stack. You will have a cold chimney that won't draw unless you put the fan on it which costs $1,000. At least rough-in for one.