Over the years, I’ve gotten some pretty lousy “blueprints”. And I’ve often complained on this forum about the lousy quality of prints I get.
But this one takes the cake. In 20 years, this is by far the worst one I’ve ever gotten.
Can anybody top this ???
Joan of Arc heard voices, too.
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Hey Boss, it's simple, on a nice heavy stock so it doesn't want to roll itself up and isn't cluttered with all those details you usually see on prints.
What's not to like?
PJ
Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.
Is it scaled? Can't be that bad!? I've had to bid some jobs on some ugly ones, but probably not as bad. I just love the handwritten on a notebook prints with no elevations when they are asking for a complete bid- frame, side, and trim. Funny, most of those were from a really bad contractor I used to do work for.
Quality, Craftsmanship, Detail
"Is it scaled? "
No scale, and almost no exterior dimensions. Just notes in the different rooms like "13X15" or "11X12".
So convenient a thing is it to be a “reasonable creature”, since it enables one to find or make a reason for every thing one has a mind to do. [Ben Franklin]
"Is it scaled? "
"No scale, and almost no exterior dimensions. Just notes in the different rooms like "13X15" or "11X12". "
And I thought the corrugated lines were the scale? LOL!
MK
You mentioned before that you sometimes get stuck with sets of trusses that are all wrong due to dimension errors. Here's an opportunity to get rid of some of those. Add up the numbers in the rooms, and pick the set of bone yard trusses that come closest to fitting. Ship them to the job site today, let them build the building to fit the existing trusses. ;-)
-- J.S.
After all the B & M you've done about cut up roofs, different pitches and different wall heights you should be on your knees giving thanks for such a straight-lined, unclutterd, rectangular rendering. They probably don't even need delivery until - what? Day after tomorrow?
I remember listening to my late FIL and his brother tell stories of their building career from the 40's to the 80's and telling about the time they had finished athe subfloor of a house they were building and the plumber shows up to go to work and after wandering around the deck for a while asks, "hey wheres the bathroom go?" He went over to one corner of the deck and makes a mark with his boot on the sub floor and says "puter right there" I also hear tell of selling their banker on their next house by showing him a pencil drawing on a paper bag.
So looking at your "blueprints" I'd say, well they look like they would fold up nicely, lie flat without holding them down with rocks or 2bys and they won't tear easily so I think you got a real nice set of prints there. ;-)
you got a real nice set of prints there
LoL, but takem dow nto the local kopykorner and see what they want to knock off 10 copies for the subs . . .
[gasp, choke]
Just thought about the 15 copies the City Site Review committee will be needing to issue the permits . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Boss, I just can't resist.....you should bow down to the gods and give thanks because this is a blueprint from heaven. You can do no wrong on this one. You have the layout, pure and simple, now it is up to YOU to fill in the blanks. Think of it as one of those fill in the blank puzzles. Want a receptacle? Just draw one on there and slap it in somewhere, you won't be wrong later on. This will be the first job you do that was 100% perfectly right the first time. You can also make it more fun by playing "connect the dots" since I see so many dots/dashes on there. And while you're at it, since you get to wear the architect hat on this job, make sure you bill an architects wage.
Boss, you win!
blue
ps Thanks for the laugh
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should!
Warning! Be cautious when taking any framing advice from me. There are some in here who think I'm a hackmeister...they might be right! Of course, they might be wrong too!
Hey ...BH....I've had a couple of bar napkin blueprints with comments like " your a carpenter you know where the windows should go and how big they should be" . Both turned out good after we got passed several hours of "what if" it was actually fun and reminds us of how much we really know.
There was arecent post about curved Mansard roofs and I was wondering if your company can build a truss for entry entry ways or other applications on walls? (if given the proper deminsions) I've got one comming up late this month and sure could use your suggestions. ...Thanks
did it have this disclaimer?
"As many things cannot be minutely mentioned, it is expected that any thing required to properly complete the job, shall be done as if it had been mentioned particularly"
"Thos Rudddell, arc"
barn design, Ontario, 1880
"there's enough for everyone"
"...any thing required to properly complete the job, shall be done as if it had been mentioned particularly"
I like that. Might print it out and show it to the guy who brought it in.
Due to financial constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel has been extinguished.
Stick some toothpicks together with wads of chewing gum and tell him you were so impressed with his plan you decided to over do the truss design in full blown 3D.
If we fail to catch a cosmic fish it may be a trillion years before the opportunity comes again
"I was wondering if your company can build a truss for entry entry ways or other applications on walls?"
I'm not sure what you're getting at there. But I'd be happy to look over whatever you've got. Do you have a plan, sketch, or anything like that?
Do you know Ed L. from our Springfield office? The designer up there quit, so I'll probably be doing all of Ed's stuff now. So if you talk to him about anything I'll likely be designing it anyway.
They won their freedom with bullets so that we could defend our freedom with ballots. [Charlton Heston]
BH...Thanks ...I'll get you some info,seems like there's a lot of personel movement in your business , watch out for that sneeky stress thing and take the kids fishing .
I needed that laugh to get me started.
Be happy that you didn't have to go out to the job site and look at were it was drawn out in the dirt before it rained.
Let us know how it turns out.
Dane
I will always be a beginner as I am always learning.
Give them the truss prints back on a used napkin
the truss prints back on a used napkin
Even better, size them exactly to the size shown on the cardboard.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Hey Lowes has used dissappearing ink on thier reciepts for years,Dont leave one on the dash of your truck for long!.
Only bought one plan package and it was useless.We basically bought it for the materials estimates but they were off by 5 sheets on a square subfloor and instead of amt of say 12' 2x10's they gave 1567' of 2x 10's!
Then it showed the a 6/12 and 12/12 roof meeting with the same overhang width.After playing with models and up on the roof with 3-4 plates I broke down and called the co. Actually got the actually arch.! He was rather incredulous.." Hmmm.. noone ever asked me this before...Hey I know what theyre building this model a few miles away and see what they did."He called back later saying...."Ill never do that again! Man those guys were pissed!"Guess he found out it was easier tro draw a staright line than build one.
found out it was easier to draw a staright line than build one
Dunno, I've seen too many plans without them--and always had to wonder if they were using a "big box store" stud as a straightedge (or a scribe . . . )
The number of folk calling themselves home designers is frightening enough without the ones who seem bound and determined to make Blue-Eyed-Devil madder than spit <tehee> . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Ron,
We stopped using "blueprints" ten years ago, though I do like Neil's suggestion>LOL
Jon
Is it on card stock or is it the missing dead sea scroll. What did the building department get a piece of sheekrock.
"What did the building department get a piece of sheekrock."
No building departments in much of this area - That's part of the problem.
We suffer most when the White House busts with ideas [H.L. Mencken]
Sounds like an RFI is in your future.Regards,
Boris"Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
We have a local designer who is much sought after for his "creative" abilities. He comes up with some really nice stuff but he's a carpenters nightmare.
In addition, while he's very good at designs that are very expensive to build, he's personally very frugal....drives a 15 yr-old rusted out riceburner, wears the same clothes 'till they're rags, etc.
Several years ago, I was building a very large home he'd designed....lots of gable dormers, turrets, radius walls, arched windows, etc.
But he had a friend who had one of the early large format Xerox copiers on which he's run off copies of the prints. The HO was about a year late getting going with the job. When the Building Inspector showed up to for a footing inspection, we pulled out the "official" copy with the red stamps from the state codes division (the copy you keep clean and dry for official purposes).
The drawing was blank! The only thing on the sheets was the stamps and red comments from the plans inspector. So the inspector returned to his office, pulled his set....and they, too, were blank!
Oddly enough, the working set we were using remained readable, but we never shared them with the inspector. Made a few alterations to that house with no one the wiser.
It never occurred to me to submit plans in disappearing ink, what a marvelous idea! We need to get Cloud in on this so he has a solution for getting that hidden room in on the plans for his customers.
More proof that pizza boxes are universally useful devices.
Ok, I'll bite, what're the dashed lines?
I'm guessing the yaller areas is porches, since they have no doors.
Ought to be an inexpensive framing job, beign devoid of windows and all (but think of how good the heat loss/gain will be . . . )