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Adding on to existing foundation

| Posted in General Discussion on November 29, 2004 12:48pm

Hi Everyone,

 

I’m looking at a newly constructed house in Massachusetts.  The builder used the existing foundation of the tear down and both expanded out and raised up to create an 8 foot ceiling in the basement.  It seems to me that this is a recipe for cracks down the road.  Is it common practice?  Would you expect problems with this or would you expect it to be fine (considering the Mass climate)?

 

Thanks,

Revan

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  1. MojoMan | Nov 29, 2004 01:05am | #1

    How did the builder add to the top of the existing foundation to raise the basement ceiling height?

    Al Mollitor, Sharon MA

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    SamT | Nov 29, 2004 03:39am | #2

    >>It seems to me that this is a recipe for cracks down the road

    It depends on what other ingredients have been mixed into the batter and how long it was stirred and how hot the oven was.

    I wasn't there so I can't say.

    SamT

    1. Hubedube | Nov 30, 2004 08:08pm | #8

      Then turn the oven off

  3. hacknhope | Nov 29, 2004 07:09am | #3

    It's very common in my city.  Tear-downs often leave some foundation, and sometimes just two (opposite) brick walls, of old house. That grandfathers narrow set-backs and avoids new home sales tax.

    I'm not a builder and don't know what other measures are required.  Makes me wonder if the new extra 1.5 stories on top are going to stay put, and if the stucco-over-hodgepodge walls are going to perform as they should with respect to insulation and water movement etc. 

    I'd love if people here told me more about how it is done and if it causes problems.

     

  4. slykarma | Nov 29, 2004 08:49am | #4

    Sounds like the old walls have had more concrete added to them to make them higher, plus some lateral additions to increase the square footage of the house. That means a cold joint between old and new. If the work was engineered, then I would expect rebar was drilled and epoxied into the old work to tie the new to it. However, if this part of the foundation is below grade, then I can foresee problems with moisture transport and susceptibility to lateral soil pressure. Also, an engineer would determine the bearing capacity of the footing and soil, and decide whether the existing footing was adequate for the load.

    If this was done to engineer's specs, then there should be no problem, but if it was done under hokey rule of thumb by some 'level in the gunrack' guy, then look out.

    Wally

    Lignum est bonum.
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      bobl | Nov 29, 2004 06:20pm | #5

      In Massachusetts you can find everything as a foundationstone, granite blocks, brick, block, poured, and who knows what else.most houses have a basement.my guess it is either poured or blocksee a lot of teardowns and rebuilds, but usually new foundation. but setbacks may have affected this, or the foundation was basicly good._____________________________

      bobl          Volo, non valeo

      1. revan | Nov 30, 2004 03:20am | #6

        Thanks for your responses.  It is poured, not block and I didn't ask, but I am assuming he drilled and placed rebar in the foundation - then put forms on top of the existing sill and added height.  I am worried about the cold seam below grade since they expanded out.

        The agent said he didn't pour a new foundation since the existing was good.  I did notice water on the lot and my guess is that he couldn't dig back because of it - not sure though and I doubt I'll get a straight answer.

         

        Revan

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          bobl | Nov 30, 2004 04:58pm | #7

          "I am worried about the cold seam below grade since they expanded out."people put additions on all the time.technology should be there.wether they do it right is another matter, but just having that joint where the old meets the new shouldn't be the problem, just wether it was done correctly.BTW HO here_____________________________

          bobl          Volo, non valeo

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