When building a new partition wall, I know that you need to build it 1/4 in. shorter than the ceiling height so you can tilt it into place without binding. Once it is upright, do you shim it in place with 1/4 in. shims? or just nail it into the ceiling joist?
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Or make it 1 1/2" short. Then install the 2nd top plate to the ceiling joist before setting the wall.
Edited 5/9/2005 5:29 pm ET by Bill Hartmann
That too, but I'd still leave 1/4" for shimming
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I like to nail down the bottom plate and level up and nail the top plates. then plumb up all door openings, and then measure and cut the studs, toenailing it all in. Forget the shims, yeah it gets covered up, but it still looks like crap untill you cover it up. Even if you cut 1/4" short you will need a sledge hammer to tip it up. And you have all those butt ughly shims.
It's also legit to build the wall in place. That way you can cut the studs a hair long and tap them into place. But you'll generally want a power nailer, or you'll want to use screws, vs trying to toenail the top ends by hand.
I dont like to force any studs into place. Lumber now is a challenge to work with. I always crown all studs using 1/8 to 1/4 for walls, always up, straight studs use on partions and corners, and the greatest tip of all is crown doubles opposite to crown. You get door openings that are more stable and easier to trim and dont need callbacks.
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I find that both ways work. If studs are all the same lengh, build it on the floor. If they are all (or some) different lenghs, I build in place.
Edited 5/10/2005 11:49 am ET by nails2
On commercial jobs we used to screw a metal track to the ceiling, plumb-bob or level down and screw or shoot a metal track to the ground, and fill in with light-gage metal studs, with wood 2x4's around any windows or doors. Screw the sheetrock, mud and tape, and you're done! Quick fast and easy, no sawdust, and less noise. Could be done on residential, also.