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problem with prime guard plus screws

| Posted in General Discussion on July 22, 2004 07:56am

While redoing my deck I used  Grip Rite prime guard plus 10 screws. These have a paint or vinyl like coating on them. They where a pain to install. The deck was redwood and I pre drilled for the screws and half of them would strip out before full insertion. Finally used some paraffin on them and they went in ok. But I felt that was an unnecessary step. Anybody else have problems with these screws?

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  1. m2akita | Jul 22, 2004 08:02pm | #1

    Yeah, I've had the same problem.  Kept stripping out the heads.  At first I thought it was me, but then heard the guy I was working with swearing at the screws also.  We ended up finding a different box of screws ( different brand) and throwing out the Primeguard plus screws.  Was quite fustrating.

    -m2akita

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    Sphere | Jul 22, 2004 08:47pm | #2

    IMHO..any thing by gripright..sux...big time.

     

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations. 

  3. ajm | Jul 22, 2004 10:52pm | #3

    arent primegard plus screws the ones with the slightly different head? its not really a #2 phillips its got its own special driver?

    1. Hobbs | Jul 22, 2004 10:57pm | #4

      God, I despise those screws.  They usually strip out about 1/2 way in so getting them out is pretty fun too.  I bought one box a couple of years ago and they keep turning up periodically.  I try to use one, strip it and swear and vow never to use them again.   

    2. Pd5190 | Jul 23, 2004 12:52am | #6

      What you are thinking about is deck mate screws. The prime guard uses a phillips head #2. Maybe I should have tried the Deck Mate.

      1. Snort | Jul 23, 2004 01:20am | #7

        I used to cuss out those prime guards, too. Impact driver is the ticket. Don't worry, we can fix that later!

      2. ajm | Jul 23, 2004 02:12am | #8

        Naw,square drive is the ticket,I love those little bastages.....

  4. BKCBUILDER | Jul 23, 2004 12:25am | #5

     I thought every box came with a drive bit, and a 5# box came with 3, blue color, but a square drive works also......don't know what the problem is, I kind of like them. I use a makita impact most of the time, and it doesn't cam out much of anything, usually breaks the screw shank first. ...............Keith

  5. FastEddie1 | Jul 23, 2004 02:23am | #9

    Yep, I usually snap off quite a few, even in pt pine.  I won't buy them anymore ... they're not much better than sheetrock screws.

    Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

  6. Piffin | Jul 23, 2004 03:42am | #10

    Find the Reisser Torx head screws by GRK Canada

     

     

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  7. mdresimprov | Jul 23, 2004 04:13am | #11

    GRK Torx head, either stainless or climatec coating, is what I use on decks. Never have had one strip out. Had a customer last summer supply me with square drives and they worked pretty good. I haven't used philips head on anything but drywall in about 5 years.

    MES

  8. Woodbutcher | Jul 24, 2004 09:17pm | #12

    This is kinda weird...  I use primeguard plus solely because they seem to be the best screws I've come across with regards to stripping out.    I wonder,  Are you using the kind that can take either a phillips or a square (robertson)  drive?  That's the kind I always use, and I have found that if you use a square drive bit it works great!  Phillips doesn't work very well at all with them, however, it's kind of nice that with these screws if you have to take one out or put one in, and all you have with you is a phillips, then it is possible to use it.  Personally I have always thought they were a great idea for that very reason.

    1. Pd5190 | Jul 25, 2004 01:29am | #13

      The ones I used where Phillips drive only. I should have looked for the square drive.

    2. Dblchk | Jul 25, 2004 02:04am | #14

      Ditto! I've used them for years with a square drive bit without any problems.

  9. FNbenthayer | Jul 25, 2004 02:45am | #15

    I tried  "Prime Guard Plus" screws, one box only, 3" square drive and had similar problems with stripping in PT. It appeared every 4th screw head was 1/3-1/2 full of the coating. I threw them in the trash and bought some more Deck Mate screws

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